Red Line Oil 5W30TD

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Anyone use this OEM approved oil for diesels? Wounder how the wear and performance is on a lab report?
 
OTR semis get over a million mile before overhauls why would An expensive boutique oil be worth the $$$?
 
Originally Posted By: JohnnyJohnson
At $18.47 a quart I don't think you're going to find many people that have the same curiosity.


Ha ha! Well I was looking for OEM arpoved oil that meets MBZ 229.51 or .52

https://www.redlineoil.com/professional-series-5w30td-motor-oil

This oil does and it's top quality. only wish it was a 05w-40.

I was going to use OEM until 36k more miles for warranty but after wanted to use the best oil money can buy but won't hurt the emissions system.

Wish Rotella T6 would be ok? That's the best bang for the buck!
 
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
I was going to use OEM until 36k more miles for warranty but after wanted to use the best oil money can buy but won't hurt the emissions system

Why?

Other oils that meet the spec and are much more reasonably priced will do everything you need. Engine wear will almost assuredly never be your failure mode here.

This just doesn't make sense from just about any practicality standpoint.

Bragging rights maybe?!?
 
It's for a Sprinter and they run very hot and sludge the oil.

I'll stick with OEM for now and send in oil samples on it at 5k? After that 36k go to the OEM approved Red Line and see if the lab work looks even better?
 
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Anyone use this OEM approved oil for diesels? Wounder how the wear and performance is on a lab report?

Redline got out two approved oils for Euro cars, and they are mediocre at best.
 
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Anyone use this OEM approved oil for diesels? Wounder how the wear and performance is on a lab report?

Redline got out two approved oils for Euro cars, and they are mediocre at best.


I noticed that the 0w-30TD oil is a class 3/4. I wounder how it would do on a wear test?

Here is the 5w-30 ESP on a simple wear test. Mercedes spec oil did a bit better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jerIfuOFSRY

I wish I can run Red Line 5w-50. He ran this test with double the weight then the ESP test and had much less wear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnyUvwmzXHY
 
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Anyone use this OEM approved oil for diesels? Wounder how the wear and performance is on a lab report?

Redline got out two approved oils for Euro cars, and they are mediocre at best.


I noticed that the 0w-30TD oil is a class 3/4. I wounder how it would do on a wear test?

Here is the 5w-30 ESP on a simple wear test. Mercedes spec oil did a bit better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jerIfuOFSRY

I wish I can run Red Line 5w-50. He ran this test with double the weight then the ESP test and had much less wear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnyUvwmzXHY






I use M1 5W30 ESP and Redline 5W30 Professional that has same approvals cannot hold candle to M1.
I was always saying there is a reason why Redline is not going with approvals. All that [censored] about how it is expensive to get approval (it is not) was just excuse. Once they decided to get approval they had to change formulation completely.
 
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Here is the 5w-30 ESP on a simple wear test. Mercedes spec oil did a bit better.

What does this test have to do with what goes on in the engine? Is this test part of Mercedes engine testing?
 
Originally Posted By: Garak
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Here is the 5w-30 ESP on a simple wear test. Mercedes spec oil did a bit better.

What does this test have to do with what goes on in the engine? Is this test part of Mercedes engine testing?


The tests just show simple wear with metal to metal contact.

Here is a test with 1kg of wight on Fuchs Titan GT1 B-Tech 5w-30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpNxu8AApBc

Almost no wear and approved for 229.51 and .52 But when the test was done at 100c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nytgtoL4UnQ

Wore down much more. To bad
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Originally Posted By: porschepilot
Here is the 5w-30 ESP on a simple wear test. Mercedes spec oil did a bit better.

A 6:30 video in which 5:00 is just the motor running the wear test......yikes!

Originally Posted By: porschepilot
It's for a Sprinter and they run very hot and sludge the oil

Um, no they don't.
Or at least not very often.
My amateur Googly search returned exactly zero hits for 'Sprinter van sludge'.

Could you please be so kind to provide data to back up this claim?

Thanks in advance!
 
Originally Posted By: porschepilot
The tests just show simple wear with metal to metal contact

Which is pretty much meaningless with respect to the workings and/or failure modes in a modern internal combustion engines.
 
Look, before this goes on for too long, the long and short of it is that you don't need some razzle dazzle, high priced, micro nano opto intelligent molecule hyper oil, now with extra razzle be-dazzle.
(Brought to you by Snoop Dogg)
Even though Snoop is actually really funny with Martha Stewart on their cooking show (look it up).


You just don't.
Really.

Buy something that meets OEM spec, change it on a regular basis, save some dough, and go wax that Porsche.
 
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Originally Posted By: porschepilot
This blog is long but it does talk about it and more.

Come on man, you're better than this.

It a single blog post, from one guy, single spaced, and 5 pages long.

That's like six red flags right there.

How about a few M-B tsb's on the subject, several enthusiast forum threads on the subject, at least a half-dozen Google hits on the topic and at least 2 BITOG fights that have completely settled the issue already?
Then it would be something worth rehashing again just to come to the same conclusion that Sprinter sludging isn't an issue, i.e., no extra razzle be-dazzle required (sorry Snoop!).

But not before!
 
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Originally Posted By: porschepilot
It's for a Sprinter and they run very hot and sludge the oil.


It sounds like they need a good bypass filter setup, as well
 
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