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Originally Posted By: JLTD
You're not shoving me anywhere, and you can stop trying to paint me into a corner. If you don't understand my meaning, then read the site so you will understand the meaning of the phrase, "condemnation point". And also so you might understand that condemnation point may be subject to interpretation, aka debated BITOG style, depending on who you're talking to, what they drive, and their driving habits.
You missed my point, JLTD, and took offense where none was needed. You brought up condemnation point, so I wanted to hear what your thoughts were. If all you're going to do is reference the 300k+ opinions on here as your point of reference, well then that's a little nebulous, eh? I figured since you brought it up, you were going to have specifics, hopefully driven off data like Doug Hillary or DNewton3. That's all my question was, to try to build more conversation around "condemnation point", sludging, and T/GDI engines.
To the other poster about linearity, yes I believe iron trends will not stay linear forever... but out of 9 UOAs over the past 100k miles, my Fe wear rate has not changed statistically from OCIs of 7.6k all the way to 17.2k, and has essentially worked out to 0.92ppm per 1k miles over 100k of driving. So that's what I was using for my reference point.
I'm almost to the point on this GDI train that I think it was developed by the oil companies- sure, they may sell a couple less gallons of gasoline as GDI engine efficiency increases incrementally, but in the long run sell waaaay more oil because of fuel dilution and the fact that everyone's convinced they need 3-5k OCIs even with top-tier synthetics on T/GDI engines!
You're not shoving me anywhere, and you can stop trying to paint me into a corner. If you don't understand my meaning, then read the site so you will understand the meaning of the phrase, "condemnation point". And also so you might understand that condemnation point may be subject to interpretation, aka debated BITOG style, depending on who you're talking to, what they drive, and their driving habits.
You missed my point, JLTD, and took offense where none was needed. You brought up condemnation point, so I wanted to hear what your thoughts were. If all you're going to do is reference the 300k+ opinions on here as your point of reference, well then that's a little nebulous, eh? I figured since you brought it up, you were going to have specifics, hopefully driven off data like Doug Hillary or DNewton3. That's all my question was, to try to build more conversation around "condemnation point", sludging, and T/GDI engines.
To the other poster about linearity, yes I believe iron trends will not stay linear forever... but out of 9 UOAs over the past 100k miles, my Fe wear rate has not changed statistically from OCIs of 7.6k all the way to 17.2k, and has essentially worked out to 0.92ppm per 1k miles over 100k of driving. So that's what I was using for my reference point.
I'm almost to the point on this GDI train that I think it was developed by the oil companies- sure, they may sell a couple less gallons of gasoline as GDI engine efficiency increases incrementally, but in the long run sell waaaay more oil because of fuel dilution and the fact that everyone's convinced they need 3-5k OCIs even with top-tier synthetics on T/GDI engines!