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M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L #4729423
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2002 Tacoma V6, recently supercharged and tuned with correct fuel mods.
UOA initially showed slightly high Fe and Al, we assumed it was wear-in and it would all wash out.
The latest UOA indicates even higher wear. I am planning on reduced OCI and looking into a friction modifier like Motorkote.
Thoughts?

Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729427
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I guess so that Iron is out of site. The Silicon is unbelievable what kind of air filter are you using?


2004 Corolla 129987
Out: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 7156 Miles
In: Havoline Pro DS 10w-30 Purolator PureOne 3-14-19 129693
2006 Duramax 74725
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729436
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Supercharged it with 150k? How would you describe how its been driven?

Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729443
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I will guess you have a intake leak somewhere or a insufficient air filter.


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729457
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Perhaps a move a move to 15w40 may be appropriate with the supecharger installed? There would be higher cylinder pressures involved with higher connecting rod and crankshaft loads.


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729458
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Id use an xW-40 oil in this application. Give M1 or Castrol 0W-40 a shot. Those are high numbers for a Toyota. Stay away from additives!


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729460
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Stay away from Motorkote. Try Liqui Moly Ceratec or Archoil 9100. You could even try Redline Oil in 5w30 too. Try and check air filter. Get AEM Dryflow, Injen Nano, or Apexi Power Intake. No oiled filters!


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729469
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I wouldn't throw any additive in just yet. Stick with the Mobil 1 but try 10w30 High Mileage for a 5,000 mile OCI. It's a more stout formula without going too heavy. I think it will help. Good luck.

Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729486
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Silicon high, fuel loaded sample. Bump up a grade for sure.


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729538
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I would guess this is the TRD supercharger? It would be wise to keep an eye out for extra cylinder heads on craigslist or Ebay. If you must keep it supercharged. The 5VZ is known to go through heads and the supercharger makes it even worse. I knew a guy who had a '97 tacoma, TRD supercharged since 40K and went through 4 sets of heads within 300K miles.

Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729574
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Air intake system and fuel system requires attention and action , I suppose.

Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729575
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IIRC Trav had a similar issue with a worked Turbo engine tearing up oil and showing high wear numbers. I'd shoot him a PM if he doesn't see this thread and he can tell you what his fix was. A 5W30 PCMO didn't cut it for him either.


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729582
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Running a K&N? Would help explain the silicon. You've also got some fuel dilution in the oil. Maybe step up to an xW-40 for a stronger add pack that will tolerate the dilution. M1 0w-40 has about 1,000 PPM of zinc and phos each, a fat dose of boron, and a whole lot of calcium to help deal with the blowby. Or even a nice HDEO would do. Track down the source of silicone first though.

Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729648
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You've got dirt ingestion from what the silicon number points to, and it is going up. This is causing your aluminum and iron wear most likely. I'd also step it up to a 0w-40 or 5w-40 HDEO. A 5w-30 PCMO may not be sufficient for stock engine + blower.


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Re: M1 5W-30, 7500 miles, 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3.4L [Re: OldPainless] #4729703
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Hmm... I know guys like irv and a couple others always point to the M1 having higher numbers- maybe try the Pennzoil Ultra 0W40 that is spec'd for the Chryslers? Those cylinder loads are way higher than your Taco, plus you'd see if the whole M1 Fe thing has any merit.

But yes, most definitely you need to check air filtration. Go to a non-oiled fleece or paper filter and make sure there are no ingress points!

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