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Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 #4729044
04/16/18 03:15 PM
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This is what the manual states to use.
Does anyone have info on the grade, type etcetera ?

Equivalent oils?
Preferably Motul .
Thanks

Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4729072
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welcome welcome welcome

Why Motul?

I can't find that part number anywhere...doesn't it also say something like MB 229.5?

What year/model is your Mercedes?

Last edited by Astro14; 04/16/18 04:04 PM.

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Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4729167
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Model and year?


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Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: Hammehead] #4729835
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It is a '12 SLS AMG GT3

The manual simply states

" It is advisable to use engine oil A2979890001 or an oil with the same specification."

Why Motul? We are partial to it and have had no lubrication failures so I try to stick with it unless we have specific instructions on an engine we did not assemble.

I have reached out to AMG and Motul but have not gotten a response.
Thanks

Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4729857
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I'm guessing that is an AMG oil spec??


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Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4729886
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A2979890001 seems to be the part number for the oil, not the spec.

After a google search, I found this parts catalog that seems to come from some racing shop in Brazil. See page 64 smile

The M1 0w40 should be ok to use in your SLS, since M1 has been the factory fill on every AMG for as long as AMG has been part of Mercedes

Ravenol has a couple recommendations for you. They have a 0w40 and a 5w40 they state is OK to use.

Here is what Motul recommends for your car.


Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4729934
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Daimler uses ExxonMobil and Shell for their non-specialized lubricants, and M1 0W-40 meets the Mercedes 229.5 oil spec that's called for in that M156 engine. If you want to use Motul, fine but I wouldn't bother with boutique oil(unless money ain't a thing).

https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/d/d/en/Spec_223_2.pdf
https://bevo.mercedes-benz.com/bevolisten/229.5_en.html

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thanks for all the input.

Small thing it is , I believe, based on a M159
GT3
Not built as a street car,there may or may not be internal differences.
This why I want to learn about that specific number the the manual says to use.
It is very possible that there are no specific requirements,

boutique oil

Motul , really?
Thanks again

Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4730257
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Well, boutique isn't the right word for Motul, but one would never confuse it with a discount oil. I would wager plenty of GT3 racers with Benz vehicles have been using off the shelf M1 0w-40, Castrol 0w-40, and Pennzoil 5w-40.

Motul is a household word for motorsports. For the oil buying public, it's just a bit harder to find.


Plain, simple Garak.

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Some german high zddp stuff? kinda fortified Mb 229.50 with ZDDPxispita.


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Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: Garak] #4730394
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Originally Posted By: 95wagon
thanks for all the input.

Small thing it is , I believe, based on a M159
GT3
Not built as a street car,there may or may not be internal differences.
This why I want to learn about that specific number the the manual says to use.
It is very possible that there are no specific requirements,

boutique oil

Motul , really?
Thanks again


whoops, sorry!

Isn't the AMG GT3 a homologation special? Sometimes the homologation has rules and regulations as to how close the GT3 racing version has to be to the street version. So, the street oil may very well be acceptable to use, but maybe not.

Originally Posted By: Garak
I would wager plenty of GT3 racers with Benz vehicles have been using off the shelf M1 0w-40, Castrol 0w-40, and Pennzoil 5w-40.

Motul is a household word for motorsports. For the oil buying public, it's just a bit harder to find.


This is certainly possible! I definitely would not doubt this being common smile

Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4730588
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The only place I've ever seen Motul products on shelf was at a motorsports shop. Now, given that, it's price there would make a Royal Purple rep blush, even in Canada, but that's another matter. wink


Plain, simple Garak.

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Originally Posted By: Garak
The only place I've ever seen Motul products on shelf was at a motorsports shop. Now, given that, it's price there would make a Royal Purple rep blush, even in Canada, but that's another matter. wink


When they blush, is it purple instead of red? blush

Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4735790
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Originally Posted By: 95wagon
thanks for all the input.

Small thing it is , I believe, based on a M159
GT3
Not built as a street car,there may or may not be internal differences.
This why I want to learn about that specific number the the manual says to use.
It is very possible that there are no specific requirements,

boutique oil

Motul , really?
Thanks again

Motul is not boutique oil, but it is not anything special.
Can you just go to local dealership and ask what oil is that part number?


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Re: Mercedes . engine oil A2979890001 [Re: 95wagon] #4736141
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^^Motul 300V ester oil is special in my opinion and crazy expensive too!


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