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#4727593 - 04/15/18 10:06 AM Just Check and Add ?
WyrTwister Offline


Registered: 01/13/13
Posts: 1243
Loc: Texas
Looking at this lawn mower ;

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-21inch-fr..._CoreLawnGarden

With this engine ;

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/campaigns/just-check-and-add.html

Just Check and Add ? What is that nonsense ? Never Change Oil ?

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#4727598 - 04/15/18 10:08 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
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Registered: 10/09/14
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Loc: Idaho
How many people even know there is oil in there lawn mower engines?
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#4727602 - 04/15/18 10:16 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
AirgunSavant Offline


Registered: 07/22/15
Posts: 3655
Loc: MD
Because it will be a short lived beast and the engine will outlive the rest of the mower.
So just top off the oil when needed. Plus it keeps the muffler well lubed wink

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#4727608 - 04/15/18 10:21 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
oldhp Offline


Registered: 06/28/12
Posts: 1543
Loc: USA
Get a oil suction gun. I tilt my lawnmower so all the oil goes towards the oil fill. One pull with gun all oil is out. Refill. Done.
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#4727611 - 04/15/18 10:22 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Imagine how long it would last if one just changed that whopping quart of oil once a year!
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#4727618 - 04/15/18 10:27 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
eljefino Offline


Registered: 06/15/03
Posts: 32379
Loc: ME
Who is intimidated by changing oil on a lawnmower? Even if I were to never do it, I would not accept the marketing that I shouldn't do it. That's just so throwaway feeling.

In other words, even if I didn't, I'd like the option to do so, someday.

I didn't like that macintosh computer that came without a floppy drive either. "Why would you want to get files in and out of here?"

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#4727641 - 04/15/18 10:51 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
Stevie Offline


Registered: 11/08/04
Posts: 137
Loc: Port Aransas, TX
I have the brigs "never change oil engine: on a snapper self propelled. Has good power, a little on the loud side compared to my last mower.

I changed the oil after probably about 10 hours. It was very thin and black. Now that I changed it to a full synthetic it is staying very clean and not using any oil.

Always starts 1st or 2nd pull.

I like it.

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#4727644 - 04/15/18 10:55 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
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Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1291
Loc: Alberta
I would change the oil each year but here is the real story:

Letís say it takes an hour to mow the lawn. Letís say you mow the lawn 10 times per year. That is 100 hrs in one summer, enough hrs to do one or two changes in my opinion. Briggs knows the average lawn mower last less than 10 years, thrown away because the auxiliary stuff causes hassles such as carbs, wheels vibrating off, hard to start or it looks too dirty. You can google it, and find the data for yourself. 100 hrs per year x 10 years = 1000 hrs. Those Briggs engines can run on whale oil. Iím positive they have tests showing 1000 hrs of no oil changes. Itís easy to do. They fire up the mover in the morning, stopping it only to refuel and then shut down at 5:00 PM, 8 hrs per day, 20 days per month. Six and a half months later, the mower is just fine.

The other thing is they are feeling the heat of electric mowers and sales of gas engines are falling. Iíve already show pictures where half the floor space for mowers at Home Depot is for rechargeable cordless mowers. Home Depot doesnít give out floor space unless the items are selling.

So, there you have it. No oil changes.



Edited by Snagglefoot (04/15/18 10:57 AM)

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#4727659 - 04/15/18 11:01 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
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Registered: 09/26/14
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Loc: US-WA
Have that engine. I just tip the mower 'till it's all out, and then add. Epoxied a neodymium magnet onto the dipstick that caught a huge shaving among small debris.
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#4727663 - 04/15/18 11:07 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: AirgunSavant]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1291
Loc: Alberta
Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
Because it will be a short lived beast and the engine will outlive the rest of the mower.
So just top off the oil when needed. Plus it keeps the muffler well lubed wink


Donít laugh, if the muffler bearings go, youíll be sorry, LOL


Edited by Snagglefoot (04/15/18 11:08 AM)

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#4727676 - 04/15/18 11:15 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
boraticus Offline


Registered: 04/19/09
Posts: 2866
Loc: Canada

Snagglefoot:

"Letís say it takes an hour to mow the lawn. Letís say you mow the lawn 10 times per year. That is 100 hrs in one summer"

I'm not a mathematician by any means. However, it appears that you aren't either. 1 hour x 10 times = 10 hours. Not 100 hours.

I'd say on average, I used to cut my grass at least 25 times a season.

Regarding the original post. This engine is a prime example of a good use for synthetic oil. I seldom recommend the use of synthetic oil however, this is on application where it would be worth it's cost. Don't change it, just top it off as required.

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#4727698 - 04/15/18 11:35 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: boraticus]
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Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1291
Loc: Alberta
Originally Posted By: boraticus

Snagglefoot:

"Letís say it takes an hour to mow the lawn. Letís say you mow the lawn 10 times per year. That is 100 hrs in one summer"

I'm not a mathematician by any means. However, it appears that you aren't either. 1 hour x 10 times = 10 hours. Not 100 hours.

I'd say on average, I used to cut my grass at least 25 times a season.

Regarding the original post. This engine is a prime example of a good use for synthetic oil. I seldom recommend the use of synthetic oil however, this is on application where it would be worth it's cost. Don't change it, just top it off as required.


Thank you. Sometimes its itís too simple. For your case, 25 hrs x 10 years = 250 hrs. No way would a Briggs engine fail after 250 hrs with no oil changes. I would change every year. Most people wonít.

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#4727700 - 04/15/18 11:36 AM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
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Loc: Outer Banks, NC
Looks like the main goal of B&S is to get consumers to buy their $10 a quart "lawn mower oil."
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#4727724 - 04/15/18 12:02 PM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
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Posts: 3662
Loc: North Carolina
Just tip it over. My pressure washer takes about a half quart. Convenient since my rider takes a quart and a half.
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#4727726 - 04/15/18 12:03 PM Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister]
GMBoy Offline


Registered: 11/22/04
Posts: 7682
Loc: Texas
Just bought a female a new mower with a B&S. Huge sticker on the motor says never need oil changed. I was expecting a sealed engine but it has a dip stick and came with the usual bottle of oil to add to the motor as part of assembly. I will let her use the mower awhile and change it out with a good synthetic oil,show her how to check it and leave a quart for top offs and then forget about it.

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