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Just Check and Add ? #4727593
04/15/18 10:06 AM
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WyrTwister Offline OP
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Looking at this lawn mower ;

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-21inch-fr..._CoreLawnGarden

With this engine ;

https://www.briggsandstratton.com/na/en_us/campaigns/just-check-and-add.html

Just Check and Add ? What is that nonsense ? Never Change Oil ?

Thanks , :-)


Wyr
God bless
Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727598
04/15/18 10:08 AM
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How many people even know there is oil in there lawn mower engines?


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727602
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Because it will be a short lived beast and the engine will outlive the rest of the mower.
So just top off the oil when needed. Plus it keeps the muffler well lubed wink

Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727608
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Get a oil suction gun. I tilt my lawnmower so all the oil goes towards the oil fill. One pull with gun all oil is out. Refill. Done.


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727611
04/15/18 10:22 AM
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Imagine how long it would last if one just changed that whopping quart of oil once a year!


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727618
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Who is intimidated by changing oil on a lawnmower? Even if I were to never do it, I would not accept the marketing that I shouldn't do it. That's just so throwaway feeling.

In other words, even if I didn't, I'd like the option to do so, someday.

I didn't like that macintosh computer that came without a floppy drive either. "Why would you want to get files in and out of here?"

Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727641
04/15/18 10:51 AM
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I have the brigs "never change oil engine: on a snapper self propelled. Has good power, a little on the loud side compared to my last mower.

I changed the oil after probably about 10 hours. It was very thin and black. Now that I changed it to a full synthetic it is staying very clean and not using any oil.

Always starts 1st or 2nd pull.

I like it.

Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727644
04/15/18 10:55 AM
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I would change the oil each year but here is the real story:

Letís say it takes an hour to mow the lawn. Letís say you mow the lawn 10 times per year. That is 100 hrs in one summer, enough hrs to do one or two changes in my opinion. Briggs knows the average lawn mower last less than 10 years, thrown away because the auxiliary stuff causes hassles such as carbs, wheels vibrating off, hard to start or it looks too dirty. You can google it, and find the data for yourself. 100 hrs per year x 10 years = 1000 hrs. Those Briggs engines can run on whale oil. Iím positive they have tests showing 1000 hrs of no oil changes. Itís easy to do. They fire up the mover in the morning, stopping it only to refuel and then shut down at 5:00 PM, 8 hrs per day, 20 days per month. Six and a half months later, the mower is just fine.

The other thing is they are feeling the heat of electric mowers and sales of gas engines are falling. Iíve already show pictures where half the floor space for mowers at Home Depot is for rechargeable cordless mowers. Home Depot doesnít give out floor space unless the items are selling.

So, there you have it. No oil changes.


Last edited by Snagglefoot; 04/15/18 10:57 AM.

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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727659
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Have that engine. I just tip the mower 'till it's all out, and then add. Epoxied a neodymium magnet onto the dipstick that caught a huge shaving among small debris.


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: AirgunSavant] #4727663
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Originally Posted By: AirgunSavant
Because it will be a short lived beast and the engine will outlive the rest of the mower.
So just top off the oil when needed. Plus it keeps the muffler well lubed wink


Donít laugh, if the muffler bearings go, youíll be sorry, LOL

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 04/15/18 11:08 AM.

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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727676
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Snagglefoot:

"Letís say it takes an hour to mow the lawn. Letís say you mow the lawn 10 times per year. That is 100 hrs in one summer"

I'm not a mathematician by any means. However, it appears that you aren't either. 1 hour x 10 times = 10 hours. Not 100 hours.

I'd say on average, I used to cut my grass at least 25 times a season.

Regarding the original post. This engine is a prime example of a good use for synthetic oil. I seldom recommend the use of synthetic oil however, this is on application where it would be worth it's cost. Don't change it, just top it off as required.

Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: boraticus] #4727698
04/15/18 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: boraticus

Snagglefoot:

"Letís say it takes an hour to mow the lawn. Letís say you mow the lawn 10 times per year. That is 100 hrs in one summer"

I'm not a mathematician by any means. However, it appears that you aren't either. 1 hour x 10 times = 10 hours. Not 100 hours.

I'd say on average, I used to cut my grass at least 25 times a season.

Regarding the original post. This engine is a prime example of a good use for synthetic oil. I seldom recommend the use of synthetic oil however, this is on application where it would be worth it's cost. Don't change it, just top it off as required.


Thank you. Sometimes its itís too simple. For your case, 25 hrs x 10 years = 250 hrs. No way would a Briggs engine fail after 250 hrs with no oil changes. I would change every year. Most people wonít.


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727700
04/15/18 11:36 AM
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Looks like the main goal of B&S is to get consumers to buy their $10 a quart "lawn mower oil."


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727724
04/15/18 12:02 PM
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Just tip it over. My pressure washer takes about a half quart. Convenient since my rider takes a quart and a half.


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Re: Just Check and Add ? [Re: WyrTwister] #4727726
04/15/18 12:03 PM
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Just bought a female a new mower with a B&S. Huge sticker on the motor says never need oil changed. I was expecting a sealed engine but it has a dip stick and came with the usual bottle of oil to add to the motor as part of assembly. I will let her use the mower awhile and change it out with a good synthetic oil,show her how to check it and leave a quart for top offs and then forget about it.

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