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2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl #4726286
04/13/18 08:48 PM
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Georgia
Scramblerguy Offline OP
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2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Platinum
1st sample is Factory fill
2nd sample is dealer bulk with 3000 miles of towing 7000lbs
3rd sample is 10W30 Penzoil Platinum
Oil in the sump now is Magnatec 10W30 which I will run for 5000 miles. Nice to see the fuel is lower in this sample even with quite a few remote starts, but no towing to speek of.
I gave Blackstone the wrong milage on this oil, my bad, truck milage is correct but oil time in the sump is wrong on 3rd sample only. I changed it early to get back on a 5000 mile change interval.





90 BMW 325is VR1 20w50
2017 F150 3.5 Eco
01 Toyota Camry 5w30 gtx
07 JD Gator 10w30
08 JD 990 15w40
59 JD 530 15W40


Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726292
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A lot of calcium in that oil for a EcoBoost


Cannot see signatures any longer so it doesn’t matter.
Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726295
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Do yourself a favor and use m1


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726318
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I'd keep doing what your doing.
I'd go to a 5000 mile run and keep her there...
#s are okay and will probably get better...


Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
03 Saturn Ion 2.2 L4 5spddrive236K miles
PPHM 5w30 x 2 Fram Ultra x 2

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726322
04/13/18 09:43 PM
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Washington, USA
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On your second sample with the fuel dilution...did you run the motor before the drain? And if so, for how long?

The reason I ask is I had fuel for the first time in my last sample and it’s the only time I did a 5 min “driveway idle” before putting it up on the ramps for the drain. Normally I run the motor around town so it’s nice and hot at the normal operating temps. Curious if you did the same thing...


2016 F-150 3.5L Ecoboost
Current Oil: Castrol Magnatec 5W-30 and Fram Ultra filter
Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726334
04/13/18 10:12 PM
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At around 4.7% NOACK, PPPP 10W-30 is a good choice for a high-output, turbocharged engine. It’s what I’m using in my WRX. Very stable oil at high temps.


16 WRX - PPPP
07 Tacoma V6 - M1 EP 5W-30, Fram Ultra, 10K OCIs, 198K
07 Yamaha R1 - Rotella T6 5W-40, Bosch 3300
07 Yamaha YZ-250, Klotz, Rotella

Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726360
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5000 mile OCI would be easy on any of the stated oils.
I would personally consider extending OCI further.

Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726409
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It looks good. You could run it 6K without any worries and still have a nice safety margin should some event arise that delays an oil change.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726429
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Last of the break-in coming down.
All looks as expected.
Follow the IOLM; changing it early isn't going to help the engine appreciably.


The act of preventative maintenance, in and of itself, is FAR MORE important than brand/grade/base choices among lubes and filters.
- under maintaining something is akin to abuse/neglect; that can kill equipment by shortening the lifespan
- over maintaining something has never been proven to be anything but a waste of time and money
Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy] #4726442
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Stick with that 10w30 there seems to be enough evidence now that it shears down less then 5w30 and it will be interesting to see how well the Castrol Magnatec 10w30 holds up my bet is quite good.

Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Onug] #4726555
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Originally Posted By: Onug
On your second sample with the fuel dilution...did you run the motor before the drain? And if so, for how long?

The reason I ask is I had fuel for the first time in my last sample and it’s the only time I did a 5 min “driveway idle” before putting it up on the ramps for the drain. Normally I run the motor around town so it’s nice and hot at the normal operating temps. Curious if you did the same thing...


That is exactly what happened on the 2nd sample, due to life issues I went longer on that oil change and did a driveway warm up which I didnt want to do but was happy I had time to change it. All these samples were pulled out of the sump through the dipstick right before the change. Thanks for asking.


90 BMW 325is VR1 20w50
2017 F150 3.5 Eco
01 Toyota Camry 5w30 gtx
07 JD Gator 10w30
08 JD 990 15w40
59 JD 530 15W40


Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: PimTac] #4726770
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
A lot of calcium in that oil for a EcoBoost


Turbo + lots of calcium + load = Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI). I remember a thread that showed that less than 1500 ppm of calcium is what you want for any turbo engine.
3000 ppm increase LSPI by a factor of 6x and more.


Currently using, Fuchs TITAN GT1 PRO FLEX 5W-30, M1 5W-20 and Castrol Edge 0W-20 Gold B.
Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Koz1] #4728661
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Originally Posted By: Koz1
Originally Posted By: PimTac
A lot of calcium in that oil for a EcoBoost


Turbo + lots of calcium + load = Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI). I remember a thread that showed that less than 1500 ppm of calcium is what you want for any turbo engine.
3000 ppm increase LSPI by a factor of 6x and more.


Calcium is used as an oil additive. Nothing to see here - http://www.pqiamerica.com/calcium.htm. I can't find a VOA for the 10w30, but here is one for the 5w30 Ultra Platinum - http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3694878/1


16 F150 5.0-QS UD 5w20,MtCrft FL500S
10 Merc C300-Mob 1 0w40,MANN H U7 18/5X
08 Maz3S 2.3-Cast Syn 5w30,Wix 57203XP
17JD D160-Cast Syn 0w30,MtCrft FL400S
Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: SnowmanCO] #4728822
04/16/18 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted By: SnowmanCO

Calcium is used as an oil additive. Nothing to see here - http://www.pqiamerica.com/calcium.htm. I can't find a VOA for the 10w30, but here is one for the 5w30 Ultra Platinum - http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3694878/1


The OPer obviously hasn't blown any pistons with the oil he has been using, but it has been well known for some time now that high calcium in oil can lead to more LSPI events in DIT engines. Check out the first chart...

http://www.infineuminsight.com/insight/nov-2016/quenching-low-speed-pre-ignition

Recent Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 dexos1 Gen 2 VOAs have shown reduced levels of calcium, PUP has not been reformulated for the new standards and I wonder if SOPUS still views this as a mainstream oil.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4573299/Pennzoil_Platinum_5W-30_D1G2


2014 Forester XT, 95000 miles
Last Change;
M1 0W30 AFE d1G2
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