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#4726286 - 04/13/18 09:48 PM 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl
Scramblerguy Offline


Registered: 06/21/10
Posts: 24
Loc: Georgia
2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Platinum
1st sample is Factory fill
2nd sample is dealer bulk with 3000 miles of towing 7000lbs
3rd sample is 10W30 Penzoil Platinum
Oil in the sump now is Magnatec 10W30 which I will run for 5000 miles. Nice to see the fuel is lower in this sample even with quite a few remote starts, but no towing to speek of.
I gave Blackstone the wrong milage on this oil, my bad, truck milage is correct but oil time in the sump is wrong on 3rd sample only. I changed it early to get back on a 5000 mile change interval.



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#4726292 - 04/13/18 09:52 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
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Registered: 03/04/17
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Loc: Soviet State of Washington
A lot of calcium in that oil for a EcoBoost
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#4726295 - 04/13/18 09:57 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
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Registered: 07/25/17
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Loc: Texas (south)
Do yourself a favor and use m1
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#4726318 - 04/13/18 10:36 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
rollinpete Offline


Registered: 03/20/17
Posts: 501
Loc: West Ma.
I'd keep doing what your doing.
I'd go to a 5000 mile run and keep her there...
#s are okay and will probably get better...
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#4726322 - 04/13/18 10:43 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
Onug Offline


Registered: 03/19/12
Posts: 346
Loc: Washington, USA
On your second sample with the fuel dilution...did you run the motor before the drain? And if so, for how long?

The reason I ask is I had fuel for the first time in my last sample and it’s the only time I did a 5 min “driveway idle” before putting it up on the ramps for the drain. Normally I run the motor around town so it’s nice and hot at the normal operating temps. Curious if you did the same thing...
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#4726334 - 04/13/18 11:12 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
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Registered: 07/08/12
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Loc: Nashville, TN via Memphis
At around 4.7% NOACK, PPPP 10W-30 is a good choice for a high-output, turbocharged engine. It’s what I’m using in my WRX. Very stable oil at high temps.
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#4726360 - 04/13/18 11:49 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
zeng Offline


Registered: 09/01/15
Posts: 2200
Loc: Malaysia
5000 mile OCI would be easy on any of the stated oils.
I would personally consider extending OCI further.

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#4726409 - 04/14/18 05:06 AM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
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Registered: 07/03/05
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Loc: NY
It looks good. You could run it 6K without any worries and still have a nice safety margin should some event arise that delays an oil change.
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#4726429 - 04/14/18 06:09 AM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
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Registered: 05/14/07
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Last of the break-in coming down.
All looks as expected.
Follow the IOLM; changing it early isn't going to help the engine appreciably.
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#4726442 - 04/14/18 06:47 AM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Scramblerguy]
Camprunner Offline


Registered: 02/19/08
Posts: 1039
Loc: MA.
Stick with that 10w30 there seems to be enough evidence now that it shears down less then 5w30 and it will be interesting to see how well the Castrol Magnatec 10w30 holds up my bet is quite good.

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#4726555 - 04/14/18 09:37 AM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Onug]
Scramblerguy Offline


Registered: 06/21/10
Posts: 24
Loc: Georgia
Originally Posted By: Onug
On your second sample with the fuel dilution...did you run the motor before the drain? And if so, for how long?

The reason I ask is I had fuel for the first time in my last sample and it’s the only time I did a 5 min “driveway idle” before putting it up on the ramps for the drain. Normally I run the motor around town so it’s nice and hot at the normal operating temps. Curious if you did the same thing...


That is exactly what happened on the 2nd sample, due to life issues I went longer on that oil change and did a driveway warm up which I didnt want to do but was happy I had time to change it. All these samples were pulled out of the sump through the dipstick right before the change. Thanks for asking.
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#4726770 - 04/14/18 01:30 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: PimTac]
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Registered: 03/05/11
Posts: 693
Loc: Ont Canada
Originally Posted By: PimTac
A lot of calcium in that oil for a EcoBoost


Turbo + lots of calcium + load = Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI). I remember a thread that showed that less than 1500 ppm of calcium is what you want for any turbo engine.
3000 ppm increase LSPI by a factor of 6x and more.
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#4728661 - 04/16/18 10:29 AM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: Koz1]
SnowmanCO Offline


Registered: 04/03/09
Posts: 108
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: Koz1
Originally Posted By: PimTac
A lot of calcium in that oil for a EcoBoost


Turbo + lots of calcium + load = Low Speed Pre-Ignition (LSPI). I remember a thread that showed that less than 1500 ppm of calcium is what you want for any turbo engine.
3000 ppm increase LSPI by a factor of 6x and more.


Calcium is used as an oil additive. Nothing to see here - http://www.pqiamerica.com/calcium.htm. I can't find a VOA for the 10w30, but here is one for the 5w30 Ultra Platinum - http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3694878/1
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#4728822 - 04/16/18 12:32 PM Re: 2017 F150 3.5 Ecoboost 3790 miles 10W30 Penzoil Pl [Re: SnowmanCO]
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Registered: 06/25/15
Posts: 4068
Loc: New England
Originally Posted By: SnowmanCO

Calcium is used as an oil additive. Nothing to see here - http://www.pqiamerica.com/calcium.htm. I can't find a VOA for the 10w30, but here is one for the 5w30 Ultra Platinum - http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/3694878/1


The OPer obviously hasn't blown any pistons with the oil he has been using, but it has been well known for some time now that high calcium in oil can lead to more LSPI events in DIT engines. Check out the first chart...

http://www.infineuminsight.com/insight/nov-2016/quenching-low-speed-pre-ignition

Recent Pennzoil Platinum 5W30 dexos1 Gen 2 VOAs have shown reduced levels of calcium, PUP has not been reformulated for the new standards and I wonder if SOPUS still views this as a mainstream oil.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4573299/Pennzoil_Platinum_5W-30_D1G2
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