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#4726133 - 04/13/18 07:36 PM 1 month update: Life with the Volt
14Accent Offline


Registered: 08/03/17
Posts: 433
Loc: MN
Well guys... It's officially been one month with my 2013 Chevy Volt. It's quickly become my favorite car, and I've had a lot of different yet random vehicles over the years. I have absolutely nothing to complain about so far, the car is more than I expected it to be and impressed me every day. Here's a quick economy rundown, since that's what most people have these things, right?

The efficiency screen after my usual day of commuting:



Trip A is keeping track of the current tank of fuel, which holds 9 gallons:



Trip B was reset when I bought the car. I'm using it as a "lifetime" mileage tracker:



I'm looking forward to many more fun miles with this ride!
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#4726166 - 04/13/18 08:02 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
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Registered: 12/12/02
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Nice, congratulations

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#4726181 - 04/13/18 08:14 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
Stevie Offline


Registered: 11/08/04
Posts: 222
Loc: Port Aransas, TX
Very interesting. I would appreciate monthly updates.

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#4726186 - 04/13/18 08:19 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
twoheeldrive Offline


Registered: 10/13/05
Posts: 29
Loc: KansasCity
Congratulations!!

I bought a Volt for my wife in 2014. It is her favorite car of all time. She loves "filling up" in the garage and rarely puts gas in it. I installed a level II charging station in the garage and it will charge from zero to full in four hours.

The car has 42,000 miles on it and has not had a single problem. The lifetime MPG is 89.4

Be sure to have the anti-freeze in the engine and battery serviced at the five year mark, if it hasn't been done. It's not a DIY thing. And make sure they only use the special deionized pre-mix from GM. Deionized antifreeze is electrically neutral... a good thing in an electric car.

There is a very good forum called gm-volt.com that you should check out.

I'm sure your Volt will give you many happy miles. It really is an amazing machine.
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#4726222 - 04/13/18 08:41 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: twoheeldrive]
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Registered: 08/03/17
Posts: 433
Loc: MN
Already a member of gm-volt.com and voltstats.net! I love those sites. I have an electrician coming out in a week to bid me on installing 240 in the garage.

I'm an auto mechanic by trade. I've already changed the transmission fluid and plan on doing a coolaning system service on all 3 cooling circuits. I've read the service information and have a vacuum filler as recommended by GM. No problem in my eyes should be pretty straight forward, I hope.
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#4726223 - 04/13/18 08:41 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
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Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2634
Loc: MN
What is the MPG after the 16.5 kWH battery dies? All the MPG figures I see include the carbon footprint from the electrical grid mixed with the gasoline hybrid mode.

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#4726236 - 04/13/18 08:50 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: oil_film_movies]
twoheeldrive Offline


Registered: 10/13/05
Posts: 29
Loc: KansasCity
That is a great question. MPG using the gas engine alone is 35 to 38 MPG. When the battery is exhausted, the engine will cycle on and off like a hybrid in city driving and on the highway it will run continuously at a relatively constant rpm.
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#4726243 - 04/13/18 09:04 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
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Registered: 08/03/17
Posts: 433
Loc: MN
Yup that's about right. 36 to 38 MPG. It's certainly not the best long-range car. However, it never claimed to be. It's an "extended-range electric vehicle". It's main function is to allow you full electric in your daily commute plus allow you to occasionally visit farther away places. If you bought a Volt as a highway killer... You bought the wrong car.

That's my personal opinion, of course!
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#4726244 - 04/13/18 09:09 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: twoheeldrive]
oil_film_movies Offline


Registered: 06/13/16
Posts: 2634
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: twoheeldrive
That is a great question. MPG using the gas engine alone is 35 to 38 MPG. When the battery is exhausted, the engine will cycle on and off like a hybrid in city driving and on the highway it will run continuously at a relatively constant rpm.
In the city I think its a "Series Hybrid", just keeping the battery at a certain low-level and/or sending currently directly to the engine. Then in mountain mode it will actually close a clutch and operate like a Prius hybrid to add engine power to electric power to the wheels. A summary at: http://www.plugincars.com/chevy-volts-mo...ies-107176.html

I do prefer a small, lightweight battery I get with a non-plugin hybrid (mine is 1.4 kWH, compared to 10-17 kWH in plug-in hybrids). My Ford C-Max averages 44 MPG in mixed driving, and my all-electric Ford Focus BEV actually has about the same carbon footprint in this part of the country. Smaller batteries weigh far less and are less expensive.

That said, there is a certain lure to a plug-in hybrid.

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#4726253 - 04/13/18 09:19 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
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Registered: 11/18/17
Posts: 683
Loc: South Carolina
With 124K on the odometer, is it still running on the original batteries? The instant torque of an electric motor has to be perfect for city traffic. My Ecoboost Fiesta is a great highway car, but oddly enough, is not so great in the city. The turbo lag and widely spaced gears makes for a less than excellent city car. I was thinking I could get an old Prius, strip it out, and somehow fit an LS6 under the hood. That would be good for the city, I think.
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#4726258 - 04/13/18 09:23 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
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Registered: 08/22/09
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30.6 miles on 8 KWH is 3.825 miles per KWH. What is your cost of electricity per KWH? Figure out how many KWH you can purchase with the current price of a gallon of gasoline and multiply that amount of KWH's by 3.825 and you will have the miles per gallon equivalent that you are getting when running all electric.


Edited by JimPghPA (04/13/18 09:32 PM)
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#4726263 - 04/13/18 09:26 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: eyeofthetiger]
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Registered: 08/03/17
Posts: 433
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: eyeofthetiger
With 124K on the odometer, is it still running on the original batteries? The instant torque of an electric motor has to be perfect for city traffic. My Ecoboost Fiesta is a great highway car, but oddly enough, is not so great in the city. The turbo lag and widely spaced gears makes for a less than excellent city car. I was thinking I could get an old Prius, strip it out, and somehow fit an LS6 under the hood. That would be good for the city, I think.


All original battery. While there have been some problems with sensors contained within the battery, actual battery failures are extremely limited. If it ever does fail, I'm fairly confident I can replace it myself for around $1,500.

I've been using the car mostly in "sport" mode which significantly sharpens the throttle response. With 273 ft lbs of torque available from 0 RPM it's an absolute riot to zip around town with. That, plus a very low center 9f gravity combine to make for an exciting drive.
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#4726273 - 04/13/18 09:33 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: JimPghPA]
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Registered: 08/03/17
Posts: 433
Loc: MN
Originally Posted By: JimPghPA
30.6 miles on 8 KWH is 3.825 miles per KWH. What is your cost of electricity per KWH? Figure out how many KWH you can purchase with the current price of a gallon of gasoline and multiply that amount of KWH's by 3.825 and you will have the miles per gallon equivalent that you are getting.


About 11 cents per. Premium fuel here (what I was using, what I based my initial math on, and what the Volt uses) is about $3.05 here. 27.5 kWh per gallon give or take.

27.5*3.825= 105.2 MPGe. I'll take it
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#4726277 - 04/13/18 09:37 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: JimPghPA]
Rand Offline


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12740
Loc: NE,Ohio
Originally Posted By: JimPghPA
30.6 miles on 8 KWH is 3.825 miles per KWH. What is your cost of electricity per KWH? Figure out how many KWH you can purchase with the current price of a gallon of gasoline and multiply that amount of KWH's by 3.825 and you will have the miles per gallon equivalent that you are getting when running all electric.


An interesting thought:

For me those numbers would work out to about...
Apples to Apples electric price I pay around 15cents/kwh even though my bill says 5.4cents. that is merely generation.. there is a large distribution component and some static charges/fees.

so that would be just under 4cents per mile...
still quite abit cheaper than gas at 2.29 last week(2.59 now)
which would be 2.29/38 or around 6cents a mile.

If I had an electric company with electric rates that vary by time of day I suppose you could put it on during times of lower demand for cheaper charging.
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#4726297 - 04/13/18 10:00 PM Re: 1 month update: Life with the Volt [Re: 14Accent]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1911
Loc: SE British Columbia, Canada
Congratulations. Here is your original posting on the volt. Is there anything we need to visit in the data now that you have real world experience with it? I believe when we looked at it last time the electricity would be about half the gasoline cost. SF

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4696766/Re:_New_ride!_I'm_"sh#Post4696766


Edited by Snagglefoot (04/13/18 10:02 PM)

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