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Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's #4723766
04/11/18 02:06 PM
04/11/18 02:06 PM
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West Ma.
rollinpete Offline OP
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I'm posting this for those who may have the same problem and want to fix it.

My ride in the sig. was burning some oil, slowly more and more, about a quart every 3000 miles or so. I only noticed a puff of blue on start up sometimes and figured (was hoping) the valve stem seals were going bad. (Also was getting more and more pinging under load).
Two months ago I decided I'd change them out, Now two months later, about a 1000 miles and a couple cans of gumout, the dip stick still reads full and the pinging is almost totally gone.
Also the engine runs so much better.Took me two days to do the job.

I'm posting some picks of the engine and tools if any one considers doing this job.
Tools needed, compressor and the plug hole adapter not pictured, spring compressor,and I bought a cheap (valve stem seal puller and installer) but not really needed, pliers and a socket will work.




(Notice how worn the old seal to the left is) ^^^^
(And the seals on the right)





Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4723780
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Nice job man. Always love when the compressed air holds the valve with no problems.
Sidenote: Ford should have kept the 4.0L as OHV. I had a Ranger with that engine, miss the torque.


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Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4723826
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Nice job thumbsup


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Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4723837
04/11/18 03:18 PM
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In the shop
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In the shop
Pete: very nice write up and great post smile

USA Canada


09' Camry LE, 141,020 miles

PP 5w30 and TG 4967
Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: 53' Stude] #4723879
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rollinpete Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: PeterPolyol
Nice job man. Always love when the compressed air holds the valve with no problems.
Sidenote: Ford should have kept the 4.0L as OHV. I had a Ranger with that engine, miss the torque.
Originally Posted By: JLTD
Nice job thumbsup
Originally Posted By: car51
Pete: very nice write up and great post smile

USA Canada


Thanks Guys.


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4723943
04/11/18 05:17 PM
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Upstate NY
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In the late 1960s I bought a Mustang with 289 that burned oil. I was 17 and I knew everything about cars and engines. Decided the valve stem seals needed to be replaced. Bought Perfect Circle ones. Then realized the area needed to be cut for the seals. Pulled the heads. Decided to lap the valves. Decided it would be better with a 3/4 grind cam. Bought a cam. Then wouldn't popup pistons be a good idea. How about the bearings, had crank turned. Engine was dirty, had it hot tanked. Months latter it was running, idled at about 1200. Would overheat in traffic.

So started with valve stem seals and went quickly down hill. Who knows if I needed to replace half the things I did.

Learned a lot. Sold the car and bought a 1969 Mach 1 Mustang with 351 Windsor.


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Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4724016
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OHV valve engines are so nice


2015 Ford F150 2.7
2018 Ford F350 6.2
Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4724219
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Curious, may have missed but how many miles on the engine?

Scott

Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: boulderdentist] #4724236
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Originally Posted By: boulderdentist
Curious, may have missed but how many miles on the engine?

Scott


182k in his signature


2010 Ford Escape 2.5 ~91K Miles: AMSOIL SS 5W-30, AMSOIL SS FE ATF.
1995 Chevy Silverado 5.7 ~277K Miles: Delo 10W-30, AMSOIL OE MV ATF.
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Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4724262
04/12/18 12:14 AM
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The Rat's odo resets at 999999.9 It shows 32K. It has a 4.0. Its off the road, but it hauls the trash to pickup on the street a 1400 foot round trip. I run it in 4 low with the hubs unlocked. The truck has had a hard life for 132K. I have done nothing to the engine since I bought it back in 7/12. Just fluids and filters. One oil change of dino 5w30 since. Runs like a watch. Won't pass inspection. Makes a heck of a wood mover though. I'd love a better example of the Rat. Its a beat up old truck holding a great little 60' V6.


'16 Camry LE STP synth 0w20 and STP filter. the Fridge

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Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4725823
04/13/18 12:54 PM
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I have never done this with the head installed, what do you do to keep the valves from falling into he cylinder? Not an issue?


I urge people not to wait 100K to change out the fluid in their transfer case units. -Kestas
Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: SOHCman] #4725870
04/13/18 01:44 PM
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West Ma.
rollinpete Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: SOHCman
I have never done this with the head installed, what do you do to keep the valves from falling into he cylinder? Not an issue?

Wish I put this in the original post but I forgot.
You need a compressor and these attachments...Also start it at top dead center, I put my truck in 2nd gear with the e brake on, 5th would have been even better.Use a strong pen magnet or even some twizzers and make sure when you take off the valve spring retainer or (keeper's) there's some back pressure there, so that the valve does not fall into the cylinder. If you've never done this before watch a few youtube videos and read up on it .




Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram XG8A, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: Replaced some valve stem seals, 4.0 ohv with Pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4725987
04/13/18 04:08 PM
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SOHCman Offline
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Cool idea! thanks


I urge people not to wait 100K to change out the fluid in their transfer case units. -Kestas

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