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Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI #4723139
04/10/18 09:12 PM
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DerekG Offline OP
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Latest report on the Golf grin

I labeled which oil was used at the top of each column, they have all been 507 spec oils. Even though I haven't needed them for the last 38k miles, they keep giving good results and I'm happy with that.

Oil Report April 2018 by DerekG710, on Flickr


2013 VW Golf TDI 6MT (DPF/EGR delete w/ tune)
2018 VW Tiguan SE 4MO
1991 BMW 535i (project)
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: DerekG] #4723142
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A good example of a great report with a oil that some will say has a weak add pack.


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: DerekG] #4723179
04/10/18 09:56 PM
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Hmm ...
So no MOLY in Liqui-MOLY....??


08 Honda Accord EX-L 2.4L M1 EP 0w20 145k
01 Kymco People 50
95 Lexus LS400 M1 AFE 0w30 193k
95 Yamaha Jog
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: PimTac] #4723181
04/10/18 09:57 PM
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Oklahoma
DerekG Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
A good example of a great report with a oil that some will say has a weak add pack.


I searched and didn't find any info on the new (2017) version of Long Life III. Just curious what people were saying about it. I put Total Ineo back in on this OCI, but there's no logic behind that. I have tried most of the 507 oils and the Total performed well (and is the cheapest). We'll see how it does for the second time around.


2013 VW Golf TDI 6MT (DPF/EGR delete w/ tune)
2018 VW Tiguan SE 4MO
1991 BMW 535i (project)
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: Brybo86] #4723202
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Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Hmm ...
So no MOLY in Liqui-MOLY....??



Been that way for some time. Yep it doesnt match the name.


2017 Mazda CX-5 GT.

Valvoline Modern Engine 0w20
Mobil 1 EP 108A
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: DerekG] #4723353
04/11/18 07:46 AM
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Pretty much only calcium based detergents and ZDDP recognizable in that report, but it seems to be working great.
Was the M1 that was used earlier 5W30 ESP?


2014 Forester XT, 90000 miles
Last Change;
M1 5W30 d1G2
Tokyo Roki 15208AA170 filter
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4723501
04/11/18 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi

Was the M1 that was used earlier 5W30 ESP?


Yes it was


2013 VW Golf TDI 6MT (DPF/EGR delete w/ tune)
2018 VW Tiguan SE 4MO
1991 BMW 535i (project)
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: PimTac] #4723545
04/11/18 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: Brybo86
Hmm ...
So no MOLY in Liqui-MOLY....??



Been that way for some time. Yep it doesnt match the name.


It's too expensive to change their name to Liqui-calcium.

If you want moly, add their M0S2.


13 Civic Si 2.4L- 69Kkms(43Kmi)-PP,Wix
09 Corolla 1.8L-380Kkms(237Kmi)-PP,Denso
05 LeSabre 3.8L-210Kkms(134Kmi)-PP,Wix
03 Sierra 2500 6.0L-204Kkms(127Kmi)-PP,Wix

All with mpg > EPA
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: DerekG] #4764478
05/21/18 11:57 PM
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Great report. Which Total INEO did you put back in (and which did you use earlier)? MC3 or Long Life?

And not surprising to see a bunch of armchair scientists grading an oil buy its add pack. Just ignore them. Very little, in terms of an oils utility, can be gleaned from an oil analysis.

Last edited by 1JZ_E46; 05/21/18 11:59 PM.

2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: DerekG] #4764519
05/22/18 02:49 AM
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He is deleted. No emissions whatsoever on this TDI. That's why he has a good wear metals numbers from a VW 507 oil.

Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: CleverUserName] #4764685
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
He is deleted. No emissions whatsoever on this TDI. That's why he has a good wear metals numbers from a VW 507 oil.


Did I ask you a question?

Last edited by 1JZ_E46; 05/22/18 08:43 AM.

2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4765169
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
He is deleted. No emissions whatsoever on this TDI. That's why he has a good wear metals numbers from a VW 507 oil.


Did I ask you a question?


Did I reply to your comment? Why would you think I was talking to you?

Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: CleverUserName] #4765548
05/23/18 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: CleverUserName
He is deleted. No emissions whatsoever on this TDI. That's why he has a good wear metals numbers from a VW 507 oil.


Did I ask you a question?


Did I reply to your comment? Why would you think I was talking to you?


Dont play dumb. Youre trying to make an excuse for why an inferior low SAPS oil showed an excellent report due to our tiff in another thread.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: DerekG] #4765684
05/23/18 08:01 AM
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I hate to ruin the party, but it's pretty common for a Volkswagen tdi to ahead metal for the first 50,000 miles or so. The last couple of oil brands used aren't anything special. We have a Total refinery 15 minutes away from me. Along with probably all the others too.


2007.5 dodge cummins 6.7 liter. Chevron Delo400 15w40. 7000 mile or 250-300hr intervals.

Re: Liqui Moly Long Life III VW 507- 2013 Golf TDI [Re: motor_oil_madman] #4767500
05/25/18 03:15 AM
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Originally Posted By: motor_oil_madman
I hate to ruin the party, but it's pretty common for a Volkswagen tdi to ahead metal for the first 50,000 miles or so. The last couple of oil brands used aren't anything special. We have a Total refinery 15 minutes away from me. Along with probably all the others too.


I guess mine is still breaking in at 114K miles, as FE is still very high @ 8-10 PPM per k miles. I don't think iron wear ever tapers off in these engines. My theory is it's primarily from the high EGR flow rates AND the Regen cycles. I think during regen the extra fuel washes the oil off of the cylinders which causes the extra wear.

Also worth noting is the amount of larger iron particles on my magnetic drain plug. That plug is always covered in black grit when I pull it.

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