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#4721948 - 04/09/18 05:51 PM New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold.
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I have to say, I'm pretty skeptical about just about all of the over-the-counter oil additives that claim lower friction, stick to metal, etc.. but this video definitely got me believing MotorKote could actually work. Actually seems like it could be a legit product.

Enjoy.

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#4721960 - 04/09/18 06:05 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
Mainia Offline


Registered: 04/06/15
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Loc: Upper midwest
Has anyone done a oil analysis on this stuff? Just a guess.....could it have Boron in it??

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#4721982 - 04/09/18 06:22 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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Registered: 05/14/12
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Loc: Winchester, Indiana
Not on Motorkote itself, but mixed in PP many moons ago. People say it should kill TBN based on chlorinated product, but it was nearly double my other UOAs on PP pre-GTL. It was my UOA around 45k total miles if you search my posts.

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#4721994 - 04/09/18 06:35 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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I know this is published by Amsoil but it has not been taken down and AFAIK Amsoil has not been sued over it. If this is correct I wouldn't put that stuff in the same room with an engine.

http://thebestsyntheticoil.com/pdf/TSB%20MO-2010-04-01_chlorine_oil_treatments.pdf
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#4722086 - 04/09/18 08:04 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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Trav, I read that stuff too, and was part of the reason I never reused it again; but, one shortcoming of the Amsoil test (and no followup) is that there have been no subsequent tests of Motorkote & it's chlorine content.

If it's any indication, my iron number was actually among the lowest of any UOA I had while MotorKote was in the sump, and there were no spikes or change in trends in my UOAs after using MotorKote. I don't know if that's a confirmation of MotorKote or not, just sharing the info. In the only time I ever used additives B2B, the UOA after had MOS2 in it, which did not show quite as good of numbers. FWIW



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#4722112 - 04/09/18 08:24 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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He used to do quick motion vid to the whole testing. Now the 30 minutes and one hour test happens in less than 10 seconds ... w/o filming. That was kindda strange editing, IMO.
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#4722161 - 04/09/18 09:00 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SubieRubyRoo]
Trav Offline


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I would still like to see any updated info before putting it in an engine, not that I would use it but for others that may, I think that would be good to know.

I don't know much about it but I suspect chlorine in those amounts does its damage slowly but surely, Hopefully Mola can chime in.
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#4722186 - 04/09/18 09:26 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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Does chlorine have adverse effects in modern engine internals like bearings and such? It may have worked in years past when everything was iron and steel. Now there is a lot more aluminium and alloys present.
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#4722213 - 04/09/18 09:47 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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Has any other lab besides Amsoil tested Motorkote for Chlorinated paraffins?
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#4722303 - 04/09/18 11:57 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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Chlorinated compounds can turn acidic over time. Be careful and monitor the pH with test strips. If you see a change, change the oil.

Most basic over-based add paks will keep up with it for some time. I would not try to run it beyond say 6,000 mile OCI's ...
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#4722685 - 04/10/18 12:05 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: Linctex]
Trav Offline


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Originally Posted By: Linctex
Has any other lab besides Amsoil tested Motorkote for Chlorinated paraffins?


Long thread here, be your own judge.

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=265439&page=all

https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1893624

Edit: Added link.


Edited by Trav (04/10/18 12:12 PM)
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#4722878 - 04/10/18 04:06 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
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In one of the links, user Turtle268 mentioned a Cummins engine failure due to the additive and how MK has almost 28% chlorine content, posted Feb 2010.

I wonder its because of that this article popped up on Apr 2010:
http://thebestsyntheticoil.com/pdf/TSB%20MO-2010-04-01_chlorine_oil_treatments.pdf

Went into a deep rabbit hole researching MK since I wanted to give it a try. Saved some money there.


Edited by Kibitoshin (04/10/18 04:08 PM)
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#4722947 - 04/10/18 06:06 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: Kibitoshin]
Trav Offline


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Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
This product seems sketchy as it gets, the more you research it the worse it gets.
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#4723064 - 04/10/18 07:57 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: SirTanon]
Ducked Offline


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Loc: Taiwan
I watched it. Bit ashamed of myself.

First bit confuses wear and friction. No water-only control in the wash-off wear test, which would have been easy to do, but otherwise seems fairly OK.

Then it pretty much degenerates into the usual engine abuse. Engine survives an hour with this stuff and water.

So what? Would it have survived an hour without this stuff and water?

Who knows? (no control).

Who cares?

Not me. I don't want to put water in my crankase, because its a stupid and pointless thing to do.

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#4725255 - 04/12/18 10:53 PM Re: New vid from Project Farm - MotorKote. I'm sold. [Re: Ducked]
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Registered: 03/31/18
Posts: 99
Originally Posted By: Ducked
I watched it. Bit ashamed of myself.

First bit confuses wear and friction. No water-only control in the wash-off wear test, which would have been easy to do, but otherwise seems fairly OK.

Then it pretty much degenerates into the usual engine abuse. Engine survives an hour with this stuff and water.

So what? Would it have survived an hour without this stuff and water?

Who knows? (no control).

Who cares?

Not me. I don't want to put water in my crankase, because its a stupid and pointless thing to do.


I agree, itīs useless totally out of envelope testing.


Edited by Hammehead (04/12/18 10:54 PM)
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