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Valvoline Advanced full synthetic #4720850 04/08/18 06:42 PM
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Now that Valvoline ditched the sodium for all applications, is it safe to say that they are equal to The other big-name oil brands? what kind of results are people seeing with this new Advanced full synthetic? I was thinking about picking some up. I was always hesitant of the previous synpower, it seemed like I had increased engine noise in my LS1 with that stuff. I always figured it was the sodium, because when I ran moly based oils the noise was gone

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Im running VAS and it runs smooth just like Synpower did in earlier cars.


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Is it the 2012+ oil youre speaking of? I dont get why its $$$ compared to others which have claimed to be SN Plus, even if not by label.

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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Is it the 2012+ oil youre speaking of? I dont get why its $$$ compared to others which have claimed to be SN Plus, even if not by label.



Im sure he is referring to Valvoline Advanced Synthetic, formerly known as Synpower.


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Re: Valvoline Advanced full synthetic [Re: NHRATA] #4720887 04/08/18 07:37 PM
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I've been using its step sister NAPA synthetic for years on and off in Hondas, Subarus, & Toyotas. Oddly all of my car headaches haven't been a result of poor oil or poor oil filters. Usually it's some other part.

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Originally Posted By: PimTac
Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Is it the 2012+ oil youre speaking of? I dont get why its $$$ compared to others which have claimed to be SN Plus, even if not by label.



Im sure he is referring to Valvoline Advanced Synthetic, formerly known as Synpower.


Yes

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It was always on par with others even when it was using the Lubrizol sodium add pack.


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Need I be concerned if I am mixing some of the old NAPA Syn with the new Valvoline Syn?


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Originally Posted By: JHZR2
Is it the 2012+ oil youre speaking of? I dont get why its $$$ compared to others which have claimed to be SN Plus, even if not by label.



Im sure he is referring to Valvoline Advanced Synthetic, formerly known as Synpower.


Yes


Thanks. Wasn't aware of the name change. I had seem that $$$ 2012+ stuff on the shelf...

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Need I be concerned if I am mixing some of the old NAPA Syn with the new Valvoline Syn?




Do you have a GDI or TGDI engine? I would run one or the other. Some here like to mix, I prefer to know exactly what is in my crankcase.


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Yeah JHZR2 that Valvoline Modern Engine being $40 at Walmart is a long bridge too far in terms of pricing. That will become another good dust collector. Just like Mobil AP has been doing.


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Originally Posted By: NHRATA
Now that Valvoline ditched the sodium for all applications, is it safe to say that they are equal to The other big-name oil brands? what kind of results are people seeing with this new Advanced full synthetic? I was thinking about picking some up. I was always hesitant of the previous synpower, it seemed like I had increased engine noise in my LS1 with that stuff. I always figured it was the sodium, because when I ran moly based oils the noise was gone


Well, Valvoline was superior to most oils, now that they canned the terrific additive package that showed up as sodium in a UOA (but wasnt the sodium you think) I hope Valvoline is still the superior oil it used to be. :o)


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Assuming sodium compounds cause noise in an engine is wrong.

The latest dexos1 Gen2 Valvoline full syn (not the VME one) has both titanium and moly for FM/AW now. It should be an even better formula than the last one, given that it passes more engine tests.

Let's use real evidence of performance, not emotional fears. All we have are certifications and engine tests. UOA's don't tell us much, so don't rely on those.

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Originally Posted By: NHRATA
Now that Valvoline ditched the sodium for all applications, is it safe to say that they are equal to The other big-name oil brands? what kind of results are people seeing with this new Advanced full synthetic? I was thinking about picking some up. I was always hesitant of the previous synpower, it seemed like I had increased engine noise in my LS1 with that stuff. I always figured it was the sodium, because when I ran moly based oils the noise was gone


I've been here around 14 years and you may be the first to complain about Valvoline Synpower engine noise. I don't recall ever reading about noisy Valvoline, before today.


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I should be more specific about the noise, it was only upon startup. It was the classic cold start piston slap, it was just more audible with the Valvoline then other oils

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