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How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's #4719646
04/07/18 03:59 PM
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2003 Saturn ION, My daughters car,

I replaced this pipe 3 years ago, (walker exhaust the only one I saw listed) and it already rusted thru).
I would think an exhaust even living in Ma. would last longer than this. (Boy are they making some cheap stuff). Well I replaced it this morning with another as I don't see any other's for sale. ( Maybe it could have been welded , But it should have not needed to be welded in the first place.)
Another thing about this exhaust, when I replaced it 3 years ago, and today, I had to cut the pipe in two and put in a splice cause it was so long, I couldn't get it over the brace in the rear? I had to do the same today...Any Thoughts? popcorn2


Exhaust should last longer than this? Any Thoughts?








Other wise It's a nice car.
She has, 227,000 miles and it loves Pennzoil Plat.hm 5w30


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719652
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Aftermarket exhausts normally rust through in 3 years in the rust belt. Cheap metal is my guess. OEM would last 10-15 years. I have a 97 Civic which I've owned since new. Still has original exhaust, I only changed the header due to a crack at the O2 sensor.

When I owned my 98 Sienna it was a replacement every 3-5 years of the aftermarket exhaust parts. OEM is too costly IMO. Seienna OEM cat pipe was over $1300. Aftermarket $300.

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Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719660
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Forever here. Sorry.

In salty western Pa where I'm from 3-5 years.


86 Samurai 1.3 leftovers
14 RAV4 2.5 5W-20 PP
16 Silverado 1500 4.3, DI, AFM 5W-30 PP

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Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719663
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It has been decades since Ive had any issues with exhaust pipe. But since you are in Mass. with salt and such, Id suspect cheaper material was used.


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Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719675
04/07/18 04:36 PM
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Is this a Daily Driver ?

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: Warstud] #4719680
04/07/18 04:40 PM
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West Ma.
rollinpete Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Warstud
Is this a Daily Driver ?


Yes My daughter uses it every day for work


Pete.
97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive185k miles
Last Change;
50/50 QSUD, QSHM. 5w30
Fram xg8a, Fram CA8141

Currently under the influence of oil shocked2

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719690
04/07/18 04:48 PM
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Mine have lasted forever. I drive a lot so there isn't much moisture sitting. I always have a axle back or catback exhaust and I scuff sand all the remaining underneath and use black flat grill paint. Helps fight the elements and insulates too. Used to do my manifolds to keep temps down but it also made my 02 sensors not last as long.


15' Civic R18Z1 189k.0w20 Redline/Archoil9200,Eibach,Tanabe&Tein Suspension/Borla Exhaust/XG7317
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Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719702
04/07/18 04:58 PM
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Factory is usually pretty good with stainless steel. Had the same thing happen with me on a Taurus. Ended up replacing the muffler a second time. Rockauto at least had a lifetime warranty on the muffler, I guess they figure you won't keep it that long.

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719704
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You should get a Stainless Steel exhaust.

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719705
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Saturn S-series used to rot out at that flange too. And the intermediate pipe needed cutting if you don't have a lift, too.

I used to just cut the flanges off and weld 2 inches of fresh pipe in the junction. Wasn't any better or worse than other options, even if you think you want to be able to replace "that other section".

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719718
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The aftermarket replacement stuff is typically made really cheap. Thin, usually 18g steel tubing. Down here in MD ive seen some barely last a year.

OEMs use 409ss. And typically use steel for flanges. The 409ss tubing basically will last the lifetime of the car. Most failures are at the steel flanges. I patch exhausts all the time with a piece of 409ss to match the tubing and basically delete the bad flanges.


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Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719774
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I had a 1987 Chevrolet 3/4 Ton 4x4 Pick-up that had the original exhaust system on it when I sold it in 2004. Never rusted out to the point of needing replaced. I have had GM cars where the OEM exhaust only lasted 3-4 years but the issue was rust out wherever there were welds. From my observations, the flange that you have a picture of is a common rust out area, as is the fold over crimps on the ends and middle of mufflers and anywhere a hanger is welded to a pipe.

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719814
04/07/18 06:42 PM
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They usually use aluminumized steel rather than stainless except for their higher end mufflers so yes in the snow belt 3 years is disturbing but not unexpected.

I ran into the same issue and called around some local shops asking if they'd fab me a pipe from stainless and they acted like this was an unusual request, lol. Apparently the only way to get the same lifespan as the factor parts is buy them or have someone who isn't just interested in franchise volume doing the job right. Maybe order the pipe yourself and take it to them but then the cost goes up... my replacement cat-back only cost $65 or so, while a custom stainless was going to run over $200 including pipe, shipping, and the shop labor so I chose the former.

At least I know that once it was set up to work, that the same walker replacement part will fit in the same way.

Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719822
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Up here in Vermont Walkers are guaranteed for life. (There best pipes).Even in the rust belt. You may want to check the warranty.


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Re: How Long should an Exhaust Pipe last? some pic's [Re: rollinpete] #4719825
04/07/18 06:53 PM
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The factory on the 2010 accent lasted until november 2014, had a recall for breaking the mounting and falling off car IIRC.

Dealer replaced fixed it (at muffler shop) after they tried ordering the exhaust part 3x and kept getting wrong sizes.(this is at dealer)

Fast forward to march 2018.. pipe was rotted out in 2 places but not covered by the 8yr 80000mile emissions warranty or 10yr/100000 powertrain.

took it to the local cheapie exhaust place.. 80bucks and 2 sections welded in later its fixed.


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