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#4718593 - 04/06/18 05:02 PM Hacks Use cheaters? How Long?
andyd Offline


Registered: 09/25/04
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Loc: Marshfield , MA
Guys who make a living with wrenches need not reply smile My favorite is the rack of a bumper jack. Its trapezoidal cross section slips snugly over a very much abused 1/2 Craftsman 10" ratchet with a flat handle.It doesn't roll on you when you jump on it. 2nd one. #1 I bent the handle and lacked the gall to get an exchange when the gears finally stripped grin2

The 1/2 Craftsman breaker bar will snap a fork in the head if you use them with a cheater. BTDT. It also won't fit in the rack ,so it has been spared.
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#4718601 - 04/06/18 05:10 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 04/27/12
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I've used a 3' pipe from Home Depot on a 1/2 inch breaker bar multiple times and haven't broken the head yet.

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#4718624 - 04/06/18 05:28 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 09/30/13
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I have my Jeep's old adjusting sleeve as a cheater. 3.5' or so.

Great for launching fireworks out of too.
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#4718627 - 04/06/18 05:30 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 10/09/04
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6 foot long piece of box tubing, to break loose axle nuts and similar, when the 1200 pound rated impact won't do it... In the market for a good 3/4" breaker bar, then I can snap off impact adapters instead! Does working on refrigeration disqualify me? I use my 24" pipe wrench on the floor as a vise all the time!


Edited by bullwinkle (04/06/18 05:31 PM)
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#4718644 - 04/06/18 05:43 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Lacrosse stick. Have a couple bent/dented sticks so take the heads off them, and now it's a good breaker bar
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#4718652 - 04/06/18 05:48 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 07/01/13
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We had five guys laying on the end of a 20 ft chunk of schedule 160 pipe on a 6 ft pipe wrench once. It didn't break then but they eventual snapped the jaw off using a come along on the end of the wrench.
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#4718655 - 04/06/18 05:49 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Old hydraulic jack handle. Padded rubber grip. Slips over everything. About 2 1/2 feet long.
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#4718760 - 04/06/18 06:51 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 02/15/03
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Loc: Jupiter, Florida
You guys have nothing on me. I use a 15 foot long helicopter skid on the end of the large wrench to remove tight mast nuts.
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#4718876 - 04/06/18 08:44 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 12/19/13
Posts: 1755
Loc: Fort Worth, Texas
What does being a Hack have to do with cheater pipes/bars? You got to do what you got to do!
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#4718880 - 04/06/18 08:47 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 11/18/17
Posts: 671
Loc: South Carolina
The shop I work in has a 6-foot prybar, and a similar length of 3" iron pipe. I have broken a few 1/2" breaker bars, and it's always on some rusty piece of junk from up north! I didn't move to the south to work on rusty cars.
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#4718934 - 04/06/18 09:40 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: andyd]
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Registered: 10/13/14
Posts: 2156
Loc: San Antonio, TX
At the height of my wrenching years, I weighed 125 to 135 lbs and was 6'-1" tall. Often I'd try jumping up & down to break loose muscle car water pump bolts etc. and sometimes tried to arrange where I could push from beneath with my legs but it was rare for that to be a safe arrangement.

I used various cheaters, my dad's nickname was "Persuader", none of which were longer than myself. I did break a few end wrenches but could always get another. I never had a true breaker bar back then. My top wrenching days were 5 to 6 years after my dad passed away. It's been a long time since I last needed to use a cheater while working on vehicles.

My dad showed me how to make cheaters for vehicle work out of assorted small diameter decent wall thickness threaded pipe pieces and fittings, customizing the "Persuader" to the job. Texas Blue Law was enforced back then so Dad had all sorts of handy stuff for home repairs stashed in the garage.


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#4719015 - 04/06/18 11:58 PM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: bullwinkle]
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Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
In the market for a good 3/4" breaker bar, then I can snap off impact adapters instead!


Amazingly... the harbor freight black "impact adapters" have never failed me!
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#4719017 - 04/07/18 12:01 AM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: Cujet]
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Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: Cujet
You guys have nothing on me. I use a 15 foot long helicopter skid on the end of the large wrench to remove tight mast nuts.


LOL!

We use a 1" drive breaker bar with cheater pipe to remove
(& 1" drive torque wrench to install)
with a gear reduction box to torque the Hamilton Standard 54H60 props
to the Allison T56-A-14 engines to 4,000 lbs ft!!!
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#4719143 - 04/07/18 06:54 AM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: Linctex]
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Registered: 09/30/13
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Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: Linctex
Originally Posted By: bullwinkle
In the market for a good 3/4" breaker bar, then I can snap off impact adapters instead!


Amazingly... the harbor freight black "impact adapters" have never failed me!


Funny this was brought up. I broke my Blackhawk's 3/4" to 1/2" adapter last fall when removing a ball hitch from a draw bar. No cheater pipe and just the bar and I. Pretty disappointed.

Interestingly enough, Blackhawk does not make a replacement for that so they say. I just went over to HF and bought their impact adapter set that had what I needed and bam, that thing is tough.

Used it just last weekend on some bolts that I genuinely feel were the hardest ones I've ever removed before. Had to use the above cheater pipe too. Held up fine.
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#4719144 - 04/07/18 06:54 AM Re: Hacks Use cheaters? How Long? [Re: Cujet]
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Loc: Indiana
Originally Posted By: Cujet
You guys have nothing on me. I use a 15 foot long helicopter skid on the end of the large wrench to remove tight mast nuts.


What's the torque spec on these?
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