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NAPA 27055 Tear #4718445
04/06/18 02:38 PM
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Toms River, NJ
Jason_Michaels Offline OP
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Off a '14 Legacy 2.5. 5K mi OCI. Max Life 0W20. First tear Ive ever seen on a Proselect. This car does 5K miles every 3 months. I saved previous proselect and it looked fine. Put a proselect back on and ST 0W20 in.




Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718461
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Another victim of wide pleat spacing. Media couldn't take the delta-p when the pleats get bent over sideways.

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: ZeeOSix] #4718469
04/06/18 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Another victim of wide pleat spacing. Media couldn't take the delta-p when the pleats get bent over sideways.

I was beginning to think Gastonia ran out of media and borrowed some from Fayetteville. wink

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718529
04/06/18 03:54 PM
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Uh-oh, it's the Tear-o-Wix-o-lator!! Hope Puro didn't start supplying Wix with media! mad

Last edited by bullwinkle; 04/06/18 03:54 PM.

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Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718534
04/06/18 04:04 PM
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The last 2 Wix made Supertech filters I cut apart had very brittle media. They were intact, but I was able to tear the media with my fingers. Did not give me any warm fuzzy feelings.


1994 Honda VT1100: Peak 15w-40/PSL/2500 mile OCI
2002 Ford F150: GTX HM 5w-20/EcoGard Syn/1yr OCI
2012 Scion xB: QSUD 0w-20/CQ Blue/5k OCI

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718557
04/06/18 04:36 PM
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Great White North.. eh
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Great White North.. eh
Uggh... and the fiasco continues.

How hard is it to make tight even pleating.

Honestly, what's the point of a 22psi bypass spec if the filter media is just going to tear... ohh the irony.


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Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718581
04/06/18 04:55 PM
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Purolator has officially taken over Wix mad crzy oilburner

But even if it didn't tear, I'd still step up to the Gold

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718645
04/06/18 05:44 PM
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I sure would like to see a video of the automated system that makes these filters. At least, I assume itís an automated production line. The poorly spaced pleats we are seeing sure seems like some bean counter cranked the speed up on the production line and now thereís less time for the pleats to even out after installation prior to the adhesive being applied.


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Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718656
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Lol, it was only a matter of time mwahahahaha >:]

Fram = GOAT

Also obligatory:


(Thanks OP for the C&P)


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Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: webfors] #4718681
04/06/18 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: webfors

Honestly, what's the point of a 22psi bypass spec if the filter media is just going to tear... ohh the irony.


E X A C T L Y !!

I get so tired of the GM guys crying about not being able to buy filters with the "required" BPV per the service bulletin requiring a 22 psi bypass valve...

well......... when their filter media tears, they won't need that high psi BP valve anymore, anyway.


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Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: webfors] #4718723
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Originally Posted By: webfors
Uggh... and the fiasco continues.

How hard is it to make tight even pleating.

Honestly, what's the point of a 22psi bypass spec if the filter media is just going to tear... ohh the irony.


Yes, high bypass setting along with brittle media is not a good formula.

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718787
04/06/18 07:14 PM
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I was afraid of this when they were taken over by MH, how long before it spreads to the Gold? Funny thing is though the German made MH is rock solid so its not like they don't know how to make a quality product.
Its almost seems like they bought the company and let it run like it always did with little or no parent company support.


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Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: WellOiled] #4718824
04/06/18 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Another victim of wide pleat spacing. Media couldn't take the delta-p when the pleats get bent over sideways.

I was beginning to think Gastonia ran out of media and borrowed some from Fayetteville. wink


hahahah, right!

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718939
04/06/18 09:45 PM
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There is now a Platinum/XP version of this Subaru-spec filter
Napa 47055
Wix 57055XP

Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels] #4718940
04/06/18 09:46 PM
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Jason,

The Proselects have been known to tear. So far it has not been epidemic.

Torn Proselect

I think old man Winter did his magic with the wide pleat space and brittle media.

The Proselect is very well respected by the BITOG members but they have seen several failures in the last year or so.


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