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#4718445 - 04/06/18 02:38 PM NAPA 27055 Tear
Jason_Michaels Offline


Registered: 03/08/15
Posts: 66
Loc: Toms River, NJ
Off a '14 Legacy 2.5. 5K mi OCI. Max Life 0W20. First tear Ive ever seen on a Proselect. This car does 5K miles every 3 months. I saved previous proselect and it looked fine. Put a proselect back on and ST 0W20 in.




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#4718461 - 04/06/18 03:00 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17233
Loc: PNW
Another victim of wide pleat spacing. Media couldn't take the delta-p when the pleats get bent over sideways.

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#4718469 - 04/06/18 03:09 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: ZeeOSix]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1347
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Another victim of wide pleat spacing. Media couldn't take the delta-p when the pleats get bent over sideways.

I was beginning to think Gastonia ran out of media and borrowed some from Fayetteville. wink

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#4718529 - 04/06/18 03:54 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
bullwinkle Offline


Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 7486
Loc: Cincinnati, OH, USA
Uh-oh, it's the Tear-o-Wix-o-lator!! Hope Puro didn't start supplying Wix with media! mad


Edited by bullwinkle (04/06/18 03:54 PM)
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#4718534 - 04/06/18 04:04 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
blupupher Offline


Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 4337
Loc: Katy, Republic of Texas
The last 2 Wix made Supertech filters I cut apart had very brittle media. They were intact, but I was able to tear the media with my fingers. Did not give me any warm fuzzy feelings.
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#4718557 - 04/06/18 04:36 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
webfors Offline


Registered: 06/06/06
Posts: 4848
Loc: Great White North.. eh
Uggh... and the fiasco continues.

How hard is it to make tight even pleating.

Honestly, what's the point of a 22psi bypass spec if the filter media is just going to tear... ohh the irony.
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#4718581 - 04/06/18 04:55 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 5867
Loc: USA
Purolator has officially taken over Wix mad crzy oilburner

But even if it didn't tear, I'd still step up to the Gold

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#4718645 - 04/06/18 05:44 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
Onug Offline


Registered: 03/19/12
Posts: 315
Loc: Washington, USA
I sure would like to see a video of the automated system that makes these filters. At least, I assume itís an automated production line. The poorly spaced pleats we are seeing sure seems like some bean counter cranked the speed up on the production line and now thereís less time for the pleats to even out after installation prior to the adhesive being applied.
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#4718656 - 04/06/18 05:50 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
JeepWJ19 Offline


Registered: 09/09/15
Posts: 899
Loc: PENNSYLVANIA
Lol, it was only a matter of time mwahahahaha >:]

Fram = GOAT

Also obligatory:


(Thanks OP for the C&P)
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#4718681 - 04/06/18 06:05 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: webfors]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 5731
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: webfors

Honestly, what's the point of a 22psi bypass spec if the filter media is just going to tear... ohh the irony.


E X A C T L Y !!

I get so tired of the GM guys crying about not being able to buy filters with the "required" BPV per the service bulletin requiring a 22 psi bypass valve...

well......... when their filter media tears, they won't need that high psi BP valve anymore, anyway.
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#4718723 - 04/06/18 06:31 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: webfors]
ZeeOSix Offline


Registered: 07/22/10
Posts: 17233
Loc: PNW
Originally Posted By: webfors
Uggh... and the fiasco continues.

How hard is it to make tight even pleating.

Honestly, what's the point of a 22psi bypass spec if the filter media is just going to tear... ohh the irony.


Yes, high bypass setting along with brittle media is not a good formula.

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#4718787 - 04/06/18 07:14 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 18272
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
I was afraid of this when they were taken over by MH, how long before it spreads to the Gold? Funny thing is though the German made MH is rock solid so its not like they don't know how to make a quality product.
Its almost seems like they bought the company and let it run like it always did with little or no parent company support.
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#4718824 - 04/06/18 07:43 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: WellOiled]
Matagonka Offline


Registered: 02/03/15
Posts: 458
Loc: NC
Originally Posted By: WellOiled
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Another victim of wide pleat spacing. Media couldn't take the delta-p when the pleats get bent over sideways.

I was beginning to think Gastonia ran out of media and borrowed some from Fayetteville. wink


hahahah, right!

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#4718939 - 04/06/18 09:45 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 5867
Loc: USA
There is now a Platinum/XP version of this Subaru-spec filter
Napa 47055
Wix 57055XP

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#4718940 - 04/06/18 09:46 PM Re: NAPA 27055 Tear [Re: Jason_Michaels]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1347
Loc: Houston, Texas
Jason,

The Proselects have been known to tear. So far it has not been epidemic.

Torn Proselect

I think old man Winter did his magic with the wide pleat space and brittle media.

The Proselect is very well respected by the BITOG members but they have seen several failures in the last year or so.

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