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#4717458 - 04/05/18 06:09 PM 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil
Jooksing Offline


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Interesting read for me as I have several years of BITOG to catch up on.
I was wondering why some say that M1 is not really a Synthetic and found this.

https://www.pca.org/news/2015-11-02/synthetic-word-relates-motor-oil

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#4717466 - 04/05/18 06:19 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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#4717483 - 04/05/18 06:39 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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People who join oil forums to learn about oil?

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#4717486 - 04/05/18 06:40 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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Thank you jooksing. MPT makes some interesting oils. Itís a good article on the basics of motor oil. Anyone that says who cares about it should keep it to himself and question why he is in this forum.

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#4717488 - 04/05/18 06:41 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: JAG]
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Originally Posted By: JAG
Thank you jooksing. MPT makes some interesting oils. Itís a good article on the basics of motor oil. Anyone that says who cares about it should keep it to himself and question why he is in this forum.


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#4717490 - 04/05/18 06:42 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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#4717493 - 04/05/18 06:43 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: JAG]
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Originally Posted By: JAG
Thank you jooksing. MPT makes some interesting oils. Itís a good article on the basics of motor oil. Anyone that says who cares about it should keep it to himself and question why he is in this forum.


Anyone that rrally gives a (edit-mod) wouldn't ask if M1 is a synthetic. How about you keep your "opinion" to yourself. Thanks


Edited by dnewton3 (04/06/18 05:24 AM)
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#4717500 - 04/05/18 06:47 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: car51]
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: JAG
Thank you jooksing. MPT makes some interesting oils. Itís a good article on the basics of motor oil. Anyone that says who cares about it should keep it to himself and question why he is in this forum.


Anyone that rrally gives a (eidt-mod) wouldn't ask if M1 is a synthetic. How about you keep your "opinion" to yourself. Thanks


car51... What is the issue brother? We enjoy your C&P posts even if it may be an obscure filter. Why? Because it's an oil forum and there may be someone on here who appreciates your hard work, i do as do countless others. Why then are you attacking this thread where the same logic applies?


Edited by dnewton3 (04/06/18 05:24 AM)
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#4717509 - 04/05/18 06:51 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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I must have stepped on poo.. Seems like I attract flies. I do not have a "side" on whether M1 is or is not a Syn. But I am interested to understand the argument. Hope there is like minded people out there.

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#4717511 - 04/05/18 06:52 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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Having a bad day there, Adam? Tomorrow is another day, and it'll be better. Hang in there.
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#4717513 - 04/05/18 06:53 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: wemay]
car51 Offline


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Originally Posted By: wemay
Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: JAG
Thank you jooksing. MPT makes some interesting oils. Itís a good article on the basics of motor oil. Anyone that says who cares about it should keep it to himself and question why he is in this forum.


Anyone that rrally gives a (edit-mod) wouldn't ask if M1 is a synthetic. How about you keep your "opinion" to yourself. Thanks


car51... What is the issue? We enjoy your C&P posts even if it may be an obscure filter. Why? Because it's an oil forum and there may be someone on here who appreciates your hard work, i do. Why then are you attacking this thread where the same logic applies?


I dont care to hear the same b.s. posted repeatedly. Sick of thus bull caca already


Im leaving once and for all



Edited by dnewton3 (04/06/18 05:24 AM)
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#4717516 - 04/05/18 06:55 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Quattro Pete]
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Originally Posted By: Quattro Pete
Having a bad day there, Adam? Tomorrow is another day, and it'll be better. Hang in there.


Im totally done here. No one gives a (edit - mod) at all. Posting stupid questions about syn vs conventional makes me sick

I am leaving this site finally. Wont miss anyone or anything about this place either


Edited by dnewton3 (04/06/18 05:21 AM)
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#4717520 - 04/05/18 06:57 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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Something about synthetics that I've pondered,do 0W oils have a superior base stock in order to achieve the 0W rating? For instance,would 0W20 have a superior base stock over 5W20 in the same brand?
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#4717534 - 04/05/18 07:03 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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Wemay, I think part of car51's point is mainly that the article is essentially just sales advertising for MPT. It says nothing new, other than promoting their brand. The other part is, for 99%+ of every roadgoing car owned by a BITOG member, ANY oil labeled "synthetic" is going to perform very similarly, to the point of essentially identical as far as those engines are concerned, regardless of the Group III, IV, or V base oils.

I'd even venture to say that there is NO roadgoing engine that requires a full Group IV or V oil. Any labeled "synthetic" will provide adequate protection for reasonable OCIs even if they are mainly Group III- like PP/PUP.

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#4717537 - 04/05/18 07:05 PM Re: 'Synthetic' as the word relates to motor oil [Re: Jooksing]
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Originally Posted By: Jooksing
Interesting read for me as I have several years of BITOG to catch up on.
I was wondering why some say that M1 is not really a Synthetic and found this.

https://www.pca.org/news/2015-11-02/synthetic-word-relates-motor-oil



In the US, oil blenders are allowed to say the oil is synthetic if it contains some synthetic oil. Outside the US, it must actually be synthetic oil to be labeled that way.

So...M1 is a synthetic blend, which is to say it has some synthetic but in actuality is is mostly a Group III oil, from what I have read.

All because of advertising....


Originally Posted By: car51
Who cares


Sorry man, yeah it can be difficult to answer questions again and again, but old joke plus new audience = new joke.


Edited by JLTD (04/05/18 07:09 PM)
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