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`18 4Runner review #4717339
04/05/18 03:44 PM
04/05/18 03:44 PM
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Bucks, PA
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So far my `18 4Runner has been great. No "problems". A very solid vehicle. Truly feels tough and will last for many years.

I have about 500 miles on it and 2 things stand out as a surprise.

1. The turning radius of this vehicle is horrible. I have driven Jeep Wranglers and many other vehicles and with a relatively short wheel base I never thought that would be an issue, but it is!

2. The 1GR-FE 4.0 engine is very noisy, especially while warming up. I have talked to 2 owners of Tacomas with this engine and they say the same thing. Sounds like there is no oil in it. They said it has sounded that way since new and the one owner has 9x,xxx miles and is still noisy. So I guess that is how they are?

Otherwise the vehicle is great! If anyone knows what oil tends to reduce engine noise in this engine I would like to know. I will be forgoing the free maintenance and am willing to go thicker than 0w-20. I already have 2 TRD filters on hand.

Last edited by zfasts03; 04/05/18 03:46 PM.

03 Corvette Z06
-Amsoil 5w-30 SS
07 Honda Accord 2.4L
-Amsoil 5w-20 SS
16 Suburban 5.3L
-M1 0w-20, XG10575
18 4Runner TRD Off Road
- Factory Fill
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717342
04/05/18 03:50 PM
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Good review! You can try some 5w30 Formula Shell at Home Depot for $9.88/jug till 4/15. Reports on here of it being quiet. If you want full syn then try Castrol Magnatec 5w30. Another quiet one. smile

Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717345
04/05/18 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted By: zfasts03
am willing to go thicker than 0w-20.

Edge 0w-40 should help quiet it down. smile


'02 530i (Edge 0W-40)
'15 Q5 3.0T (Edge 5W-40)
'18 Charger SRT (FF)
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717347
04/05/18 03:53 PM
04/05/18 03:53 PM
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It's a real off-road vehicle, what did you expect? tired


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717356
04/05/18 04:07 PM
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Rockwall, Texas
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The 3.5 in my Avalon and wife's Highlander are smooth as silk. Are these engines unrelated?

Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717482
04/05/18 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: zfasts03
So far my `18 4Runner has been great. No "problems". A very solid vehicle. Truly feels tough and will last for many years.

I have about 500 miles on it and 2 things stand out as a surprise.

1. The turning radius of this vehicle is horrible. I have driven Jeep Wranglers and many other vehicles and with a relatively short wheel base I never thought that would be an issue, but it is!

2. The 1GR-FE 4.0 engine is very noisy, especially while warming up. I have talked to 2 owners of Tacomas with this engine and they say the same thing. Sounds like there is no oil in it. They said it has sounded that way since new and the one owner has 9x,xxx miles and is still noisy. So I guess that is how they are?

Otherwise the vehicle is great! If anyone knows what oil tends to reduce engine noise in this engine I would like to know. I will be forgoing the free maintenance and am willing to go thicker than 0w-20. I already have 2 TRD filters on hand.


Love mine also -- solid feel, and with the reputation for long term durability it's a keeper.

You really can't beat a Wrangler for turning radius; but coming from a vehicle with a 3' longer wheelbase, I'm loving the turning radius of the 4Runner! It's all perspective and might take a little getting used to.

My engine is noisy also, and after spending time on several Toyota and 4Runner sites, it's a noisy engine for everyone. It does sound like something's wrong, doesn't it? I'll be going with a 30 weight soon, and may try a 40 down the road.


I'm a thickie; assimilate
But 20s have their place

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 138k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 41k, OE 5w20/Wix

Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4717521
04/05/18 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
It's a real off-road vehicle, what did you expect? tired


With a turning radius of a Suburban?


86 Samurai 1.3 leftovers
14 RAV4 2.5 5W-20 PP
16 Silverado 1500 4.3, DI, AFM 5W-30 PP

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Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717529
04/05/18 07:02 PM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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If its noisy with 0w20, try 5w30 and report back.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: AZjeff] #4717532
04/05/18 07:03 PM
04/05/18 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted By: AZjeff
Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
It's a real off-road vehicle, what did you expect? tired


With a turning radius of a Suburban?


No doubt they got too large.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4717622
04/05/18 08:11 PM
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Im sorry, I just dont get it - two relatively major design attributes being lousy is a great vehicle?

Had you test driven the vehicle before buying it?

I get it that many on here swoon over low tech, aged designs over more advanced engineering, but with that comes some of the attributes you mention.

Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4718791
04/06/18 07:15 PM
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so when are you doing tight circles and did you not hear the engine before purchase?

comparing a short wheel base jeep to a 4runner is not fair. if you thought anything was possibly wrong with the engine, and still signed your name, well that is just crazy. If concerned, should have asked before hand.

Oh, don't be concerned.

Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4718800
04/06/18 07:26 PM
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We have owned a 4runner back in the day. Early 2000s. Incredible Offroad, terrible on the road! Way too stiff and uncomfortable for regular day today driving. I am surprised that the new ones are not more comfortable considering how expensive they are.


2017 Toyota Sienna (Hers)
2017 Toyota Sienna (His)
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4718820
04/06/18 07:39 PM
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Bucks, PA
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Yep! Did a test drive, back roads, then highway about 10 miles total. Did not turn steering wheel full lock until after buying it. Also the engine is okay when warmed up but there is noticeable piston slap from a cold start, not initially, but about a minute in then goes away as the engine warms.

Actually it was pouring rain when I bought it. Either way neither of these would be deal breakers. Still love it and from what I gather these sounds and characteristics are part of the what a 4Runner is and not a problem.

Last edited by zfasts03; 04/06/18 07:40 PM.

03 Corvette Z06
-Amsoil 5w-30 SS
07 Honda Accord 2.4L
-Amsoil 5w-20 SS
16 Suburban 5.3L
-M1 0w-20, XG10575
18 4Runner TRD Off Road
- Factory Fill
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4718857
04/06/18 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: zfasts03
Yep! Did a test drive, back roads, then highway about 10 miles total. Did not turn steering wheel full lock until after buying it. Also the engine is okay when warmed up but there is noticeable piston slap from a cold start, not initially, but about a minute in then goes away as the engine warms.

Actually it was pouring rain when I bought it. Either way neither of these would be deal breakers. Still love it and from what I gather these sounds and characteristics are part of the what a 4Runner is and not a problem.

Curb to curb turning radius only applies to vehicles that can't drive over the curbs...
If we didn't drive so much I'd get a 4runner too.

Last edited by IndyIan; 04/06/18 08:27 PM.

07 Focus ZXW, 5spd manual, 218km M1 5W30
18 Outback 2.5 CVT 15km 0W20
Re: `18 4Runner review [Re: zfasts03] #4719349
04/07/18 10:11 AM
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In case you weren't aware, Toyota used to spec 5W-30 oil for the 1GR-FE engines (as in my 2007 Tacoma). Surely the tolerances are the same, and the switch to 0W-20 was done in the interest of boosting economy numbers only.

The only difference in your engine and mine is that yours has VVT-i on the exhaust cams in addition to the intake cams (older versions have VVT-i on the intake side only).

Maybe someone who knows, can chime in here and tell us if switching to a heavier weight oil would pose any risk to the VVT-i system. Would there be differences in any components on that dual-VVT-i system that might be harmed by going to a 30W? My guess would be, in this case, no.

I think, personally, my choice would be to try a 5W-20, first, maybe one that is a bit on the thicker end of the scale, for a 20W. And then you would have the benefit of an oil that would probably have fewer VIIs and, as a result, lower volatility.


16 WRX - PPPP
07 Tacoma V6 - M1 EP 5W-30, Fram Ultra, 10K OCIs, 198K
07 Yamaha R1 - Rotella T6 5W-40, Bosch 3300
07 Yamaha YZ-250, Klotz, Rotella

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