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#4713982 - 04/02/18 10:05 AM Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
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Loc: SE British Columbia, Canada
My Poulan weed wacker calls for Synthetic two cycle oil. I donít mind since I donít use a lot of gas but are others out there still using Dino with good results? Here is a photo of both Poulan labeled synthetic and cheapo Dino. What do you recommend?




Edited by Snagglefoot (04/02/18 10:07 AM)

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#4713985 - 04/02/18 10:08 AM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
MotoTribologist Offline


Registered: 02/03/16
Posts: 579
Loc: NJ, USA
Yes, lots of people still use conventional 2-stroke oil with no issues. A good oil is a good oil whether it is synthetic or petroleum based. There are not-so-good oils out there, but for a weed whacker, there's plenty of good options.

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#4713994 - 04/02/18 10:15 AM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Registered: 09/21/10
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Loc: Texas
Condolences on the Poulan Ö just put a year old (hardly used) chainsaw at the road Ö it sat for 7 hours before someone grabbed the shiny chartreuse wonder Ö

Oh course it helped me justify my first Stihl Ö so it was useful in that regard Ö gonna run that today wink

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#4714066 - 04/02/18 11:47 AM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Registered: 09/06/15
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Gee, my Poulan Weed Wacker is going on 25 years and still runs great. Needs new fuel lines as the Ethanol has done them in, but otherwise fine smile

I have nuked some little Poulan chainsaws, but that was my own fault. Tuning for max RPM leaned them out and they seized. Those little plastic saws are touchy that way. Now I err on the side of rich and they just keep truckin smile

I ran a 50/50 mix of Poulan Synthetic Oil and dino 2-stroke for years. Ran well. My wife got 1/2 case on sale and I "extended" it with some other oil I already had. No issues at all. Clean piston crowns and no scoring in Husky, Echo, and Partner saws RedMax blower and Ryobi brush cutter.

Note: I don't run any of it at 50:1. Always 40:1. No smoke, no good. I like to see that mosquito repellent coming out of the exhaust laugh

Once I ran out of the Poulan oil, I started mixing the same way with Motul synthetic 2-stroke oil which I use in the dirt bikes. Same deal. Good Dino/Syn mix at 40:1. Been doing that in dirt bikes since the 1970's. Works well. Always 40:1 smile


Edited by BrocLuno (04/02/18 11:50 AM)
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#4714075 - 04/02/18 12:03 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
Panzerman Offline


Registered: 12/16/06
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I agree 100% with BrocLuno. I always mix my gas and oil at 32:1 or 40:1 but never leaner than that.
My last Craftsman weedtrimmer lasted over 20 years.
Smoke is good and oil keeps them cleaner not carboned as they like you to believe.
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#4714085 - 04/02/18 12:21 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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I run motul 800 2t in my 2 cycles at 32:1. It is ester based and it gives maximum protection and i even use it in my lawn boy 2 cycles.
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#4714110 - 04/02/18 12:43 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: jakewells]
khittner Offline


Registered: 07/13/12
Posts: 328
Loc: Michigan
I've run Amsoil Saber synthetic 2-stroke in my Toro CCR2000 snowblower for several years without an issue. The same for my son's '78 Puch Maxi moped. Mixing 100:1 is kind of a pain (my RatioRite mixing cup doesn't have a convenient hash mark for 1.3 oz. into my 1-gallon gas can) so they get something closer to 75 or 80:1 Oil isn't fuel, so additional oil in gasoline actually makes the fuel mixture leaner, not richer.


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#4714115 - 04/02/18 12:45 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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I like Opti-2
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#4714153 - 04/02/18 01:45 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Registered: 03/11/09
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Amsoil Saber in my LawnBoys and trimmer.
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#4714165 - 04/02/18 01:55 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Registered: 09/25/04
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Loc: Marshfield , MA
Mix the cheap stuff at 40:1. I don't think I've used Stihl oil for 30 yrs. Latest is Valvoline Universal mixed to 32:!
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#4714194 - 04/02/18 02:24 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: khittner]
ridgerunner Offline


Registered: 01/14/09
Posts: 809
Loc: PA
Originally Posted By: khittner
I've run Amsoil Saber synthetic 2-stroke in my Toro CCR2000 snowblower for several years without an issue. The same for my son's '78 Puch Maxi moped. Mixing 100:1 is kind of a pain (my RatioRite mixing cup doesn't have a convenient hash mark for 1.3 oz. into my 1-gallon gas can) so they get something closer to 75 or 80:1 Oil isn't fuel, so additional oil in gasoline actually makes the fuel mixture leaner, not richer.


I use Amsoil as well for my Stihls. Best thing I ever did for them! Yrs ago I bought 100 of the 1 gallon add packs that mix with 1 gallon of fuel for 100:1. Saws always start and run great.

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#4714216 - 04/02/18 02:46 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Loc: Bucks, PA
Amsoil Sabre as well. Amazing stuff!
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#4714302 - 04/02/18 04:37 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: zfasts03]
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JASO FD in my 2smokes.

Echo or VP is all i use anymore.

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#4714325 - 04/02/18 05:04 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: zfasts03]
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Registered: 01/03/09
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Loc: Illinois
Originally Posted By: zfasts03
Amsoil Sabre as well. Amazing stuff!


I have used Amsoil Saber for 10-15 years in my Echo Weed Wacker.
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#4714420 - 04/02/18 06:45 PM Re: Use of Synthetic two stroke oil in small engines [Re: Snagglefoot]
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Carbon in the exhaust ports was a major problem back when many 2-cycle engines were mixed with plain mineral oil.(sae 30)

All 2-stroke oil now-a-days is "ashless"... so carbon is pretty much a worry from the past
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