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VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN #4713374
04/01/18 03:03 PM
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So, Rural King has this filter and tough guard filter. $2.03 for this and $6.99 for Tough Guard. I cleaned them out of this filter and tg 8316's. Enjoy the pics smile


















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Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713380
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Looks like it has an anti-siphon valve too (aka: center tube ADBV). Thanks for the C&P of an unusual filter.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: ZeeOSix] #4713387
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Looks like it has an anti-siphon valve too (aka: center tube ADBV). Thanks for the C&P of an unusual filter.


I believe the second valve is to help prevent dry startups. Slacktide_Bitog knows more about this than I. Filter was developed for the Ford "Zetec" engine if i recall


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713392
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Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Looks like it has an anti-siphon valve too (aka: center tube ADBV). Thanks for the C&P of an unusual filter.

I believe the second valve is to help prevent dry startups.


Yep ... anti-siphon valve or what I call a center tube ADBV. This filter has a double ADBV setup, not double bypass valve.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713393
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So, it aids in startup by holding some oil in filter correct?

Thanks for info Zee :^)


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713395
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Thanks for the cut. Good photos.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713406
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You are welcome sir smile


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: ZeeOSix] #4713408
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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: car51
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Looks like it has an anti-siphon valve too (aka: center tube ADBV). Thanks for the C&P of an unusual filter.

I believe the second valve is to help prevent dry startups.


Yep ... anti-siphon valve or what I call a center tube ADBV. This filter has a double ADBV setup, not double bypass valve.


ZeeOSix:
Would you see any problem running these filters in a PH3600 application?


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713411
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Originally Posted By: car51
So, it aids in startup by holding some oil in filter correct?

Thanks for info Zee :^)


Yes, the check valve in the center tube always keeps oil in the center tube when the engine is shut off.

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Thanks Adam. Not used to seeing your hands clean! Looks interesting but I still canít see myself buying a fiber-capped filter.

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Originally Posted By: SubieRubyRoo
Thanks Adam. Not used to seeing your hands clean! Looks interesting but I still canít see myself buying a fiber-capped filter.


I dont mind a fiber end capped filter. Used many EG and TG filters without issue smile


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Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: pbm] #4713421
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Originally Posted By: pbm
ZeeOSix:
Would you see any problem running these filters in a PH3600 application?


As long as the rest of the filter is a cross-over match (size, threads, bypass setting), it having the anti-siphon valve will not matter.

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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: pbm
ZeeOSix:
Would you see any problem running these filters in a PH3600 application?


As long as the rest of the filter is a cross-over match (size, threads, bypass setting), it having the anti-siphon valve will not matter.



Everything should match since Motorcraft started specifying the FL-400 for the Zetec when they discontinued the FL-2005 which cross-references to this PH8316...


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Originally Posted By: pbm
Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: pbm
ZeeOSix:
Would you see any problem running these filters in a PH3600 application?


As long as the rest of the filter is a cross-over match (size, threads, bypass setting), it having the anti-siphon valve will not matter.


Everything should match since Motorcraft started specifying the FL-400 for the Zetec when they discontinued the FL-2005 which cross-references to this PH8316...


Should be fine then.

Re: VIRGIN FRAM EG 8316 CUT OPEN [Re: 53' Stude] #4713493
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Wow that is recent production for an 8316! (December 2017) Thank you for the cut and post thumbsup

How recent was the TG production? smile

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