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Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P #4713249
04/01/18 11:51 AM
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Jacksonville, FL
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Luke
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Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713251
04/01/18 11:55 AM
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Jacksonville, FL
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This filter was on my 4Runner for about 5 months with Rotella T4 10w30 CK-4. No issues to report, ADBV nice and flexible as it should be. Will follow up with a drained picture of the media side by side with a Car Quest Red Affina made filter off my Lexus. This filter has about the same number of pleats as the CQ red but the media is thicker. The Napa filter uses a thread end bypass compared to the CQ dome end.

Delo 400SD 15w30 and a TG3614 went back in and on. Sample sent to blackstone for analysis.


Luke
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Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713253
04/01/18 12:04 PM
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Here's a few comparison pictures I took from the element assemblies from the Napa Gold Left and CQ Red on the right. Keep in mind this is not the current production CQ Red and is probably most representative of a Napa Silver or a MicroGuard Wix filter.







Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713256
04/01/18 12:05 PM
04/01/18 12:05 PM
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In the shop
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Luke: great pics and that engine must be real easy on oil smile

Happy Easter and Thank You for C&P sir smile


09' Camry LE

ST 5w30 and TG 4386(filter on for second 5k run)
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713259
04/01/18 12:09 PM
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Northeastern Vermont
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FlyNavyP3 Filter looks real good Thanks for the C&P. Am I reading the 87 4runner correct. It's 30 years old. If it is how many miles and is it rust free.


I can't prevent getting old but I REFUSE to grow up.
2010 Mountaineer 4.0
2002 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: 53' Stude] #4713261
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Originally Posted By: car51
Luke: great pics and that engine must be real easy on oil smile

Happy Easter and Thank You for C&P sir smile


No worries Car51, the engine is still plugging along at 335,000 and change. I've noted a slight increase in iron in a ppm/mi basis over the past 2 years so I'm trying some 10/15w30 HDEOs these past few changes to see if I can get wear rates back to where they previously were. In terms of TBN retention the engine seems to do pretty well despite having significantly more blow by compared to the Lexus as evidenced by how much darker the 4Runner oil filter media is compared to the Lexus despite having run more miles on the filter off the Lexus.

All things considered it runs really well for its age and mileage and doesn't seem to beat up oil very bad at all, I'm changing the lube way earlier than the lube is capable of for sure.


Luke
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Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: littleant] #4713262
04/01/18 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: littleant
FlyNavyP3 Filter looks real good Thanks for the C&P. Am I reading the 87 4runner correct. It's 30 years old. If it is how many miles and is it rust free.


As of today it has 335,307 miles, purchased from the original owner 7 years ago. Had 255,150 miles on it back then. 22RE 5sp. Original never rebuilt short block. About 5 years ago I put on a spare cylinder head I had with a RV cam to bump the power a little bit. The head had to come off anyway to fix an external head gasket weep anyway so I replaced it with a fresh cylinder head and upgraded camshaft. Timing chain was replaced at the same time.

Yes it is a 1987 and it's my daily driver. Oh and yes it's rust free.


Luke
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Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713289
04/01/18 01:18 PM
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West Ma.
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Nice pic's
Filter's look solid.
Thanks for the C&P.


Pete.

97 Ford Expl.Sport 4.0 ohv 4wd 5spddrive187k miles
03 Saturn Ion 2.2 L4 5spddrive236K miles
PPHM 5w30 x 2 Fram Ultra x 2

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Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: rollinpete] #4713308
04/01/18 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted By: rollinpete
Nice pic's
Filter's look solid.
Thanks for the C&P.


No worries happy to share!


Luke
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Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713330
04/01/18 02:23 PM
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Northeastern Vermont
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Originally Posted By: littleant
FlyNavyP3 Filter looks real good Thanks for the C&P. Am I reading the 87 4runner correct. It's 30 years old. If it is how many miles and is it rust free.


As of today it has 335,307 miles, purchased from the original owner 7 years ago. Had 255,150 miles on it back then. 22RE 5sp. Original never rebuilt short block. About 5 years ago I put on a spare cylinder head I had with a RV cam to bump the power a little bit. The head had to come off anyway to fix an external head gasket weep anyway so I replaced it with a fresh cylinder head and upgraded camshaft. Timing chain was replaced at the same time.

Yes it is a 1987 and it's my daily driver. Oh and yes it's rust free.
Amazing and rust free to boot. You have to keep it. Let us know when you hit 500,000. Bet it will. Cheers1


I can't prevent getting old but I REFUSE to grow up.
2010 Mountaineer 4.0
2002 Jeep Wrangler TJ 4.0
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: littleant] #4713381
04/01/18 03:08 PM
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Jacksonville, FL
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Originally Posted By: littleant
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Originally Posted By: littleant
FlyNavyP3 Filter looks real good Thanks for the C&P. Am I reading the 87 4runner correct. It's 30 years old. If it is how many miles and is it rust free.


As of today it has 335,307 miles, purchased from the original owner 7 years ago. Had 255,150 miles on it back then. 22RE 5sp. Original never rebuilt short block. About 5 years ago I put on a spare cylinder head I had with a RV cam to bump the power a little bit. The head had to come off anyway to fix an external head gasket weep anyway so I replaced it with a fresh cylinder head and upgraded camshaft. Timing chain was replaced at the same time.

Yes it is a 1987 and it's my daily driver. Oh and yes it's rust free.
Amazing and rust free to boot. You have to keep it. Let us know when you hit 500,000. Bet it will. Cheers1


I have no intention of selling it, the goal is 400,000 on the original short block. As of right now it uses no oil and has given no indication that it won't make it there. I have a really nice new engine sitting waiting to go in the truck to replace the original engine. The original thought was I'd change engines at 300,000 miles. But the original engine runs so [censored] well I can't bring myself to change it.


Luke
P-3C and P-8A Maritime Weapons and Tactics Instructor, Instructor Tactical Coordinator and Mission Commander
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713388
04/01/18 03:16 PM
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Georgia
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I really like the NAPA Gold 1348 and WIX 51348 filters. They are very close in construction to the Motorcraft FL-910s. For folks who donít like using Purolator made filters, the WIX/NAPA Gold in this series is a great choice.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Mobil 1 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: MParr] #4713389
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Originally Posted By: MParr
I really like the NAPA Gold 1348 and WIX 51348 filters. They are very close in construction to the Motorcraft FL-910s. For folks who donít like using Purolator made filters, the WIX/NAPA Gold in this series is a great choice.


Yup, WIX: QUALITY

MOTORCRAFT: Unknown quality


09' Camry LE

ST 5w30 and TG 4386(filter on for second 5k run)
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713548
04/01/18 06:54 PM
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Golden Meadow, LA
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Have you ever posted pictures of the body and engine? I'd like to see.


2006 2500 Dodge 5.9 Cummins Mobil Delvac 15W40, Fleetguard Stratapore 90k miles
Early '99 F250 ECLB 7.3 Stroker, 223k miles
Re: Napa Gold 1348 3285mi 87 4Runner C&P [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713592
04/01/18 07:41 PM
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Great White North.. eh
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Excellent looking filter. Even pleating all around... couldn't identify the seam, or did you hide it?

Have there been any wix/napa gold filters with torn media? This might be my go to filter in the ATS with the oversized 57502 and the 22psi bypass.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
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