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Rotella T6 + T4 #4713235
04/01/18 11:27 AM
04/01/18 11:27 AM
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Central Minnesota
garyw Offline OP
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I run Rotella T6 Full Synthetic 5/40 in my 2006 Ford F-350 6.0 Diesel. I had some engine work done and the shop added 2 quarts of Rotella T4 Conventional 15/40 because some oil was lost. I only had about 50 miles on the T6. Should I change it or leave it go until my usual oil change of 3000 miles.

Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713237
04/01/18 11:30 AM
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Balearic Islands , Spain
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No worries, and if i were you i would change the oil every 5-6k miles not 3k.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713248
04/01/18 11:50 AM
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Ford 6.0 might be a 'special ford design' that warrants low OCI.

Other, more knowledgeable BITOG'rs, feel free to chime in.


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2007 Yaris 78K 0w-40 Castrol
2006 B2300;132K;ALM


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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713265
04/01/18 12:21 PM
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It will be fine.


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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713267
04/01/18 12:22 PM
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Wet side WA
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Just watch the oil monitor.


2004 Corolla 126649
Out: VML 5w-30 TG4967 OCI 5007 Miles
In: EDGE EP 5W-30 Bosch 3311 122537 7-18-18
2006 Duramax 74478
Out: T6 5W-40 M1-303
In: T6 5W-40 XG9100 73705 4-22-18
Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713339
04/01/18 02:30 PM
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If the 6.0 is "bulletproofed & deleted", 5,000 in not a problem at all.

The oil is fine.


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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713345
04/01/18 02:33 PM
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Leave it 15W-40 is a better oil.


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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713368
04/01/18 02:51 PM
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Doesnt the 6.0 diesel use the engine oil for something other than a lube in its engine? thinking I read something like 3,000 PSI and high heat running a pump or something? Super rough on the oil, especially conventional oil.

Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713383
04/01/18 03:11 PM
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I wouldn't waste the rest of the new 5w40. That 2 qts. is a pretty small percentage considering it mixed in with 3 more gallons of the T6, and though I wouldn't, I know several guys that run 15w40 in their 6.0's. And bulletproofed or not, 3K sounds like a real waste especially on T6.

Last edited by Alex_V; 04/01/18 03:13 PM.

To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

'85 GMC C3500, 454, 132K
'82 Mercedes 300CD, OM617 turbo, 173K (totaled 2018, in rehab)
'85 Mercedes 300TD, OM617 turbo, 217K (wife's)
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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4713418
04/01/18 03:57 PM
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I ran 5K OCIs on the '03 6.0 PSD I had, the later 6.0s seem a little better than the earlier ones were. I would run it the full 5K and put in T4 10W30-it's just as good cold as the T6 and costs roughly half as much.


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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: bullwinkle] #4714441
04/02/18 06:13 PM
04/02/18 06:13 PM
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Central Minnesota
garyw Offline OP
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Yes, the 6.0 has been bulletproofed and deleted. I think the oil also drives the injectors.

Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4714624
04/02/18 09:19 PM
04/02/18 09:19 PM
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North of you Idaho
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Originally Posted By: garyw
Yes, the 6.0 has been bulletproofed and deleted. I think the oil also drives the injectors.


Yes, your engine oil drives your injectors. Your motor has a high pressure oil pump "HPOP" mounted on the top front block next to your fuel bowl that pressurizes the injectors. That's why your motor takes so much oil. It is referred to as a HEUI injector, Hydraulically actuated Electronically controlled Unit Injectors.

P.S. even 5k oil change is overkill unless it takes you a year to accumulate 5k.


08 Tribeca 86k PUP 5w30 wix
06 Accord Hybrid 134k PPHM 0w20 wix
02 Chevy k3500 99k Delvac 1 esp 5w40 wix
00 F350 136k Delvac 1300 15w40 wix
Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4714876
04/03/18 07:16 AM
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Michigan
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The HEUI Fords are famous for shearing 5w40, so the oil probably ends up a 5w30. 15w40 and 10w30 stay in grade better in those engines. A couple of quarts of T4 15w40 isn't going to hurt anything.


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Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: A_Harman] #4719763
04/07/18 04:49 PM
04/07/18 04:49 PM
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Central Minnesota
garyw Offline OP
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I only put on 5000 miles or less in a year. I will just change it once a year. If I switch to T4 15-40, won't it be pretty thick on a -20 degree morning and take a while to get up in the engine?

Re: Rotella T6 + T4 [Re: garyw] #4719904
04/07/18 07:05 PM
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North of you Idaho
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Originally Posted By: garyw
I only put on 5000 miles or less in a year. I will just change it once a year. If I switch to T4 15-40, won't it be pretty thick on a -20 degree morning and take a while to get up in the engine?



Yes! 15w40 will give you a harder time starting at -20F. Stick with the synthetic for your application then, didn't notice your from MN, gets really cold there! I change oil in all my vehicles once a year also, I don't even accumulate 5k per year, per vehicle.

Last edited by KneeGrinder; 04/07/18 07:06 PM.

08 Tribeca 86k PUP 5w30 wix
06 Accord Hybrid 134k PPHM 0w20 wix
02 Chevy k3500 99k Delvac 1 esp 5w40 wix
00 F350 136k Delvac 1300 15w40 wix
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