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Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712293
03/31/18 11:33 AM
03/31/18 11:33 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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I do the winter tire thing and have summer directionals. I chalk mark the summers and do my swap front to back every spring. .


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712356
03/31/18 12:34 PM
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Phoenix, AZ
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I usually just do front to back, and if I am feeling up to it I'll occasionally rotate in an X pattern.


2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4L 99k STP Synthetic HM 10w30 & OEM
2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 234k Mobil Super HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 149k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712395
03/31/18 01:17 PM
03/31/18 01:17 PM
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Front to back here too. Better than nothing.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Touring AWD 2.5L
2014 Honda CTX700N
2012 Honda CR-V LX 2.4L
2010 Honda Fit 1.5L
2003 Honda Odyssey 3.5L - Traded-in
2002 Nissan Maxima 3.5L - Traded-in
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712409
03/31/18 01:46 PM
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Florida, Cape Coral
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I do the forward cross on my FWD as recommended. Front to back is not as good because of possible slight loss in road grip due to front to back camber changes. Ed


2014 CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712464
03/31/18 03:29 PM
03/31/18 03:29 PM
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Posts: 44
Iowa
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Iowa
The manual for the 2001 Honda Odyssey shows (for non-directional tires) BOTH front to back and X-ing. I have two floor jacks so rotate whichever way catches my fancy that day.

Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712481
03/31/18 03:50 PM
03/31/18 03:50 PM
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The Northeast
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The Northeast
I do front to back since it's the easiest to do in my garage.


2018 Hyundai Elantra VE
2013 Honda Pilot EX-L 4WD
2002 Honda Accord EX-L

Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712498
03/31/18 04:06 PM
03/31/18 04:06 PM
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FL
Jake777 Offline OP
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My new 2018 has only 4 jack points and no way to get the van safely up on 4 jack stands with out considerable work. Theses new cars are getting less and less DIY friendly


2018 Honda Odyssey EXL

2015 Honda Accord

2008 Nissan Altima S
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4712549
03/31/18 05:20 PM
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Bend, Oregon
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Just had Discount Tire rotate and balance my tires (free service if your a previous customer).

Per my Ford Focus Drivers Manual....

Rear right to front left....rear left to front right.....

Front left to rear left...and front right to rear right.

Plan on doing the above every 5K to 7K.


03' Ford Focus SE(2.3L Duratec PZEV)/ 140K +
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Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4714964
04/03/18 09:47 AM
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Appleton, WI
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I drive the 4 miles to the Discount Tire in my city and whatever they feel like doing for a rotation pattern, that's what gets done. I subscribe to the KISS principle. The bonus is that I don't have to bust my back doing the heavy lifting and I now have an ironclad record of rotations. It came in handy with the warranty claim I just submitted for junk Kumho tires that lasted 24k miles of the 60k mile rating. They will have a hard time denying the claim with the rotation receipts.

And I've found that they don't have any distinction between current/former customers and never been a customer. They will do a rotate and balance for for free for anyone that walks in the door, as will they do a flat repair and rebalance. They even threw in 2 TPMS rebuild kits for my dad when the cleaned up bead leaks for him. He was so impressed that he'll be a customer for life now.

Last edited by threeputtpar; 04/03/18 09:49 AM.

2013 Honda Odyssey Touring Elite - Citgo Syngard 0W-20 / Carquest Blue 68k miles
2005 Audi allroad - Valvoline 5W-40 MST / Carquest Blue 218k miles
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4716266
04/04/18 02:06 PM
04/04/18 02:06 PM
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Posts: 3
california
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like some have said before. front to rear without crossing is still better than not at all. depending on driving habits and load, you might see more wear on the passenger side. i've only done front to rear for over 30 years on various cars fwd, rwd, awd, 4x4 for the same reason as you. no issues.


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Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4716312
04/04/18 02:56 PM
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Leamington, ON, Canada ..... r...
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I have a pair of ramps and a hydraulic jack.
I use the ramps to change oil/filter .. then back down off the ramps.

I take the hydraulic jack to the rear and jack up one side and slide a ramp under the shock mount to hold the tire off the ground - do the same to the other rear. Now both rears are off the ground on the ramps.Loosen lugs nuts and remove tires
Take the jack to the front and remove/rotate tires one at a time crossing tires per manual.
Remove ramps from rear and voila !!


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Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4716900
04/05/18 07:40 AM
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Somewhere in the US
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The important thing about tire rotation is that the fronts and the rears need to be swapped. The 2 ends of the vehicle do different things and the tires wear differently. On RWD, the rear tires wear in the center and on the front, they wear on the shoulders. On a FWD, the wear is more rapid on the front (about 2 1/2 times faster), and the wear pattern is more dependent on the alignment.

When I do a rotation I can jack up the whole side of the vehicle (except for the van!). I put a jack stand under a corner, take off the tire, then proceed to where that tire is going, jack up that corner, etc. - going around the car until done. While a simple front to rear would be easier to do, it isn't that much more difficult to do a Modified X.


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Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: CapriRacer] #4723178
04/10/18 09:56 PM
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FL
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On my brand new 2018 Honda Odyssey there are only 4 jack points and they are not wide enough for me to lift and place the jack stands. And the metal to either side of the jack points is not strong enough to hold the vans weight. Sucks


2018 Honda Odyssey EXL

2015 Honda Accord

2008 Nissan Altima S
Re: Tire rotation front to back ok? [Re: Jake777] #4736575
04/23/18 07:20 PM
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NH
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I try to do a cross when I rotate--I figure it might take out any feathering. At the moment I'm lucky and have spare sets of wheels for all my vehicles, so I can pull a wheel, put on a spare, and work my way around--I do have to jack 5 times but it's really not that slow.


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1999 Toyota Camry LE, 2.2L/4AT, 208k, his
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