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Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles #4712548
03/31/18 05:19 PM
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Mathew_Boss Offline OP
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Fram TG2 3k miles off a 118k mile 5.7l Hemi. Was not impressed w/ carboard endcaps as this is the first cheap filter I have ever cut open. Normally run Purolator Boss Filters with no problems and even pleats. I dont like the wavey pleats either. UOA posted in appropriate section. Oil was the new Valvoline Full Synthetic W/ML D1G2 Easy Pour bottle.




125k Mile 11 Dodge Durango 5.7L Hemi PP HM or QSUD 5w20 or 0w20 w/Purolator Boss or Wix XP

40k Mile 2015 Dodge Charger 3.6L Pentastar Pennzoil Platinum or QSUD 0/5W20, or 5W30
Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712555
03/31/18 05:26 PM
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I don't consider those pleats 'wavy'....they look fine to me....and they should after only 3K.
Cardboard endcaps don't bother me either but tears and very wavy pleats do. I would do 5K minimum on full synthetic.


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Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712561
03/31/18 05:32 PM
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That filter doesn't look "weak" or wavy AT ALL!

3,000 miles is a Cakewalk for the TG2.


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Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712562
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I used to dislike the fiber end caps as well. However I've come around on them. The glue bond between the filter material and the fiber end cap is actually really good, some say better than the bond to steel. In the case of massively distorted filter material in the case of moisture in the oil the fiber end cap gives some and the media doesn't tear. The TG Fram doesn't look like much on the inside but it really is a great filter. If you really want robust construction step up to the Fram XG.


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Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712572
03/31/18 05:45 PM
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what is the efficiency of the filter paper?


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Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712627
03/31/18 06:52 PM
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99% @ 20 microns (ISO4548-12)


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712628
03/31/18 06:54 PM
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I have read that the Toughgard uses a different filter media than an extra guard. Are the end caps a heavier material?

Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Oldtom] #4712642
03/31/18 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: Oldtom
I have read that the Toughgard uses a different filter media than an extra guard. Are the end caps a heavier material?

Tough Guard media is different than Extra Guard media.

I do not know if the end caps are the same or not. Maybe Car51 knows. He does many C&P posts.


2004 Ford Ranger 4.0L V6
Valvoline Advanced Full Synthetic 5W30 + Fram Tough Guard
Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712664
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Filter looks brand new to me. Pleats are straight. Endcaps look good. I use TG's all the time.


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Quaker State Ultimate Durability 10W30
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Quaker State Ultimate Durability 5W20

Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712671
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I can't see any grounds for complaint about the "carboard" end caps in those photos. They functioned well.


2011 Toyota Prius now at 93K
1981 Mazda GLC (323) retired at 606K
1972 Subaru DL retired at 190K
1954 Chevrolet retired at 121K
Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712711
03/31/18 08:39 PM
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Kansas
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I would, and do, run a Fram TG over a Purolator "anything" any day of the week. I run the TG in my 04 Hemi with Valvoline ML HM with 5k OCI's; No issues at all.

Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: CR94] #4712717
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TG is a mid tier filter, not a cheap one. If you think those pleats are wavy, you must have missed any of the C&Ps of tearolators during the height of their notoriety, or some of the crushed cartridge filters that people post. You must be trolling considering you ran a filter that is known to be good for 10k here for 3k, and then complained about it's condition.


I've been sensing a lot of fram hate on these boards lately. I think it has to do with how the fram ultra was this board's darling filter for the last two years, now the novelty has worn off and new filters such as the puro boss have arrived on the scene. I was shocked at some of the negative posts in the threads discussing the extra guard getting a silicone ADBV, unheard of for a value filter.


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Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712738
03/31/18 09:20 PM
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Now, that is just pitiful.


2013 KIA Optima EX 2.4L. Now: QSUD 5W30 & STP S2808ML
2017 Ford Escape SE 2.0T Now: Mobil 1 5W30 & NAPA Gold 1348
Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712743
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Unleash the trolls. laugh

Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss] #4712769
03/31/18 10:00 PM
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1/2 hr N.E. of Detroit
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Those TGs are good filters. Purolators cannot be trusted.


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