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#4712548 - 03/31/18 05:19 PM Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles
Mathew_Boss Offline


Registered: 09/16/14
Posts: 176
Loc: Nebraska
Fram TG2 3k miles off a 118k mile 5.7l Hemi. Was not impressed w/ carboard endcaps as this is the first cheap filter I have ever cut open. Normally run Purolator Boss Filters with no problems and even pleats. I dont like the wavey pleats either. UOA posted in appropriate section. Oil was the new Valvoline Full Synthetic W/ML D1G2 Easy Pour bottle.


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#4712555 - 03/31/18 05:26 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
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Loc: New York
I don't consider those pleats 'wavy'....they look fine to me....and they should after only 3K.
Cardboard endcaps don't bother me either but tears and very wavy pleats do. I would do 5K minimum on full synthetic.
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#4712561 - 03/31/18 05:32 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
That filter doesn't look "weak" or wavy AT ALL!

3,000 miles is a Cakewalk for the TG2.
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#4712562 - 03/31/18 05:33 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Registered: 07/04/16
Posts: 1431
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
I used to dislike the fiber end caps as well. However I've come around on them. The glue bond between the filter material and the fiber end cap is actually really good, some say better than the bond to steel. In the case of massively distorted filter material in the case of moisture in the oil the fiber end cap gives some and the media doesn't tear. The TG Fram doesn't look like much on the inside but it really is a great filter. If you really want robust construction step up to the Fram XG.
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#4712572 - 03/31/18 05:45 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Registered: 01/17/03
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what is the efficiency of the filter paper?
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#4712627 - 03/31/18 06:52 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Registered: 10/03/15
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Loc: Houston, Texas
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#4712628 - 03/31/18 06:54 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Oldtom Offline


Registered: 07/05/14
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Loc: Cecil County Maryland
I have read that the Toughgard uses a different filter media than an extra guard. Are the end caps a heavier material?

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#4712642 - 03/31/18 07:12 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Oldtom]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1358
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: Oldtom
I have read that the Toughgard uses a different filter media than an extra guard. Are the end caps a heavier material?

Tough Guard media is different than Extra Guard media.

I do not know if the end caps are the same or not. Maybe Car51 knows. He does many C&P posts.
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#4712664 - 03/31/18 07:32 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
aquariuscsm Offline


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 18309
Loc: Dallas,Tx USA
Filter looks brand new to me. Pleats are straight. Endcaps look good. I use TG's all the time.
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#4712671 - 03/31/18 07:45 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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I can't see any grounds for complaint about the "carboard" end caps in those photos. They functioned well.
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#4712711 - 03/31/18 08:39 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
ejes Offline


Registered: 01/11/16
Posts: 321
Loc: Kansas
I would, and do, run a Fram TG over a Purolator "anything" any day of the week. I run the TG in my 04 Hemi with Valvoline ML HM with 5k OCI's; No issues at all.

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#4712717 - 03/31/18 08:44 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: CR94]
maxdustington Online   content


Registered: 01/21/17
Posts: 899
Loc: Toronna
TG is a mid tier filter, not a cheap one. If you think those pleats are wavy, you must have missed any of the C&Ps of tearolators during the height of their notoriety, or some of the crushed cartridge filters that people post. You must be trolling considering you ran a filter that is known to be good for 10k here for 3k, and then complained about it's condition.


I've been sensing a lot of fram hate on these boards lately. I think it has to do with how the fram ultra was this board's darling filter for the last two years, now the novelty has worn off and new filters such as the puro boss have arrived on the scene. I was shocked at some of the negative posts in the threads discussing the extra guard getting a silicone ADBV, unheard of for a value filter.



Edited by maxdustington (03/31/18 08:45 PM)
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#4712738 - 03/31/18 09:20 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
MParr Offline


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 538
Loc: Georgia
Now, that is just pitiful.
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#4712743 - 03/31/18 09:29 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Unleash the trolls. laugh

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#4712769 - 03/31/18 10:00 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 8955
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
Those TGs are good filters. Purolators cannot be trusted.

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