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#4712548 - 03/31/18 05:19 PM Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles
Mathew_Boss Offline


Registered: 09/16/14
Posts: 167
Loc: Nebraska
Fram TG2 3k miles off a 118k mile 5.7l Hemi. Was not impressed w/ carboard endcaps as this is the first cheap filter I have ever cut open. Normally run Purolator Boss Filters with no problems and even pleats. I dont like the wavey pleats either. UOA posted in appropriate section. Oil was the new Valvoline Full Synthetic W/ML D1G2 Easy Pour bottle.



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#4712555 - 03/31/18 05:26 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
pbm Offline


Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7480
Loc: New York
I don't consider those pleats 'wavy'....they look fine to me....and they should after only 3K.
Cardboard endcaps don't bother me either but tears and very wavy pleats do. I would do 5K minimum on full synthetic.

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#4712561 - 03/31/18 05:32 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 5641
Loc: Waco, TX
That filter doesn't look "weak" or wavy AT ALL!

3,000 miles is a Cakewalk for the TG2.
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#4712562 - 03/31/18 05:33 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
FlyNavyP3 Offline


Registered: 07/04/16
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Loc: Jacksonville, FL
I used to dislike the fiber end caps as well. However I've come around on them. The glue bond between the filter material and the fiber end cap is actually really good, some say better than the bond to steel. In the case of massively distorted filter material in the case of moisture in the oil the fiber end cap gives some and the media doesn't tear. The TG Fram doesn't look like much on the inside but it really is a great filter. If you really want robust construction step up to the Fram XG.
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#4712572 - 03/31/18 05:45 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
edwardh1 Offline


Registered: 01/17/03
Posts: 2848
Loc: Coastal South Carolina
what is the efficiency of the filter paper?
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#4712627 - 03/31/18 06:52 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
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Loc: Houston, Texas
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#4712628 - 03/31/18 06:54 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Oldtom Offline


Registered: 07/05/14
Posts: 293
Loc: Maryland
I have read that the Toughgard uses a different filter media than an extra guard. Are the end caps a heavier material?

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#4712642 - 03/31/18 07:12 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Oldtom]
WellOiled Offline


Registered: 10/03/15
Posts: 1347
Loc: Houston, Texas
Originally Posted By: Oldtom
I have read that the Toughgard uses a different filter media than an extra guard. Are the end caps a heavier material?

Tough Guard media is different than Extra Guard media.

I do not know if the end caps are the same or not. Maybe Car51 knows. He does many C&P posts.
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#4712664 - 03/31/18 07:32 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
aquariuscsm Online   content


Registered: 12/30/06
Posts: 17921
Loc: South Texas,USA
Filter looks brand new to me. Pleats are straight. Endcaps look good. I use TG's all the time.
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#4712671 - 03/31/18 07:45 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 960
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
I can't see any grounds for complaint about the "carboard" end caps in those photos. They functioned well.
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#4712711 - 03/31/18 08:39 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
ejes Offline


Registered: 01/11/16
Posts: 308
Loc: Kansas
I would, and do, run a Fram TG over a Purolator "anything" any day of the week. I run the TG in my 04 Hemi with Valvoline ML HM with 5k OCI's; No issues at all.

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#4712717 - 03/31/18 08:44 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: CR94]
maxdustington Offline


Registered: 01/21/17
Posts: 229
Loc: Toronna
TG is a mid tier filter, not a cheap one. If you think those pleats are wavy, you must have missed any of the C&Ps of tearolators during the height of their notoriety, or some of the crushed cartridge filters that people post. You must be trolling considering you ran a filter that is known to be good for 10k here for 3k, and then complained about it's condition.


I've been sensing a lot of fram hate on these boards lately. I think it has to do with how the fram ultra was this board's darling filter for the last two years, now the novelty has worn off and new filters such as the puro boss have arrived on the scene. I was shocked at some of the negative posts in the threads discussing the extra guard getting a silicone ADBV, unheard of for a value filter.



Edited by maxdustington (03/31/18 08:45 PM)
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#4712738 - 03/31/18 09:20 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
MParr Offline


Registered: 10/28/17
Posts: 458
Loc: Georgia
Now, that is just pitiful.
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#4712743 - 03/31/18 09:29 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
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Loc: PNW
Unleash the trolls. laugh
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#4712769 - 03/31/18 10:00 PM Re: Fram Tough Guard TG2 3k Miles [Re: Mathew_Boss]
Triple_Se7en Offline


Registered: 12/04/04
Posts: 8576
Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
Those TGs are good filters. Purolators cannot be trusted.

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