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747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing #4712282
03/31/18 10:25 AM
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Interesting narration by pilot but at 9:28 planes are diverted around a "cloud".


Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Blaze] #4712370
03/31/18 11:46 AM
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Any idea who he flies for? I'm guessing that's a 747-200/400 based on the steam gauges and what I'd assume is a flight engineer in the third seat. I know Kalitta Air just retired the last of their 747-200's so my guess would be a 747-400. I wasn't aware that the 400 didn't have a glass cockpit and didn't have GPS integration for the inertial navigation units. Heck even my old P-3 had GPS INU's!


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Blaze] #4712384
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747-400 has GPS, glass cockpit and NO FE.

This is a -100 or -200.


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Astro14] #4712429
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
747-400 has GPS, glass cockpit and NO FE.

This is a -100 or -200.


Thanks Astro! I'm not all that familiar with the 747 series so I wasn't sure which series had what. Wasn't it a 707 or 747 that was shot down kear the Kamchatka peninsula during the Cold War? If I remember correctly the shoot down of that aircraft prompted the civil use of GPS.


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Blaze] #4712432
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I thought I heard the pilot use ANA as the callsign, which is All Nippon Airways, probably All Nippon Cargo. The date is Feb 2012, so they were possibly still flying -200's.


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Blaze] #4712435
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Found the registration number in the video @ 7:53. N708SA, Southern Air 747-200 cargo configuration. In storage since 2012.

Information here from plane spotters


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4712474
03/31/18 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Wasn't it a 707 or 747 that was shot down kear the Kamchatka peninsula during the Cold War? If I remember correctly the shoot down of that aircraft prompted the civil use of GPS.


You may be thinking of Korean Airlines flight 007. It took off from here in Anchorage, and it was a 747.

Last edited by AlaskaMike; 03/31/18 02:44 PM.
Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: AlaskaMike] #4712556
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Originally Posted By: AlaskaMike
Originally Posted By: FlyNavyP3
Wasn't it a 707 or 747 that was shot down kear the Kamchatka peninsula during the Cold War? If I remember correctly the shoot down of that aircraft prompted the civil use of GPS.


You may be thinking of Korean Airlines flight 007. It took off from here in Anchorage, and it was a 747.


That is the exact incident I remember. Thanks!


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Blaze] #4713177
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Originally Posted By: Blaze
Interesting narration by pilot but at 9:28 planes are diverted around a "cloud".



Is that "cloud" referring to Fukushima ?? I bet it is.


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Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: FlyNavyP3] #4713524
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FWIW, I was the engineer at the former Naval Air Development Center in Warminster, PA, that had Litton develop that integration.

Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Papa Bear] #4713532
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Originally Posted By: Papa Bear
Originally Posted By: Blaze
Interesting narration by pilot but at 9:28 planes are diverted around a "cloud".



Is that "cloud" referring to Fukushima ?? I bet it is.
Yes that is what he was referring too.

Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Astro14] #4713538
04/01/18 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: Astro14
747-400 has GPS, glass cockpit and NO FE.

This is a -100 or -200.
Someone mentioned in the YouTube thread it was a 200. Built in 1988 and stored since Sept 2012.

Re: 747 prepares for Pacific ocean crossing [Re: Blaze] #4714725
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I like how the flight engineer ends up in his undershirt eventually! laugh


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