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Chevy Cruze diesel question #4710339
03/29/18 09:13 AM
03/29/18 09:13 AM
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Posts: 527
Alabama
NavyVet88 Offline OP
NavyVet88  Offline OP
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Alabama
Hey guys,

Here lately ive been scoping out a new vehicle and options for my commute to work. My civic in my sig is my daily driver for a 100 mile round trip commute and has been for the last 5 years. The civic is an absolute joy to drive both comfort and maintenance wise, but I know it wont last forever. So ive been looking at a diesel option in the chevy cruze for the longevity aspect of the motor. Now I know that diesel can be more expensive to work on when the time comes, but proper preventative maintenance will keep that cost down more so than not. Basically im curious about...

Is a diesel motor more of a proper choice for my situation in your opinion?
-Life of the engine is my primary concern because I already get great gas mileage from the civic so im really not hurting there. I blew through my warranty on the civic in 2 years from mileage and I will be keeping the civic regardless as a second vehicle since it is paid for.

What is the oil change situation like with a diesel motor? By that I mean, do they generally have a bigger sump to hold more than a traditional gas engine sump? -Ive been told that it will cost significantly more because of oil type and filters but idk. Also, I do my own oil changes.

If you do recommend a diesel in my situation, what do you recommend if not the chevy cruze? The cruze model im looking at brand new actually costs about $2k less than what I paid for my civic new 5 years ago. Budget wise the cruze is there, Volkswagen is more than what im wanting to pay and I haven't heard from anyone in regards to Kia`s diesels.

To sum all this up at the end, i am unable to relocate closer to my job and am just wanting to be proactive in my vehicular decisions on in to the future. If im over reacting by all means let me know.


2013 Honda Civic LX 1.8L 140k M1 HM 0w20 with Fram XG7317
2003 Buick Century 3.1L 196k Maxlife 5W-30 with Fram TG3387A
Maintenance Mechanic by trade, working class for life.
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710358
03/29/18 09:32 AM
03/29/18 09:32 AM
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Rochester, NY
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From what I understand, the bulletproof reliability of diesel engines is somewhat a thing of the past now that they're more complicated and computerized. I don't have any specific information regarding the reliability of the Cruze diesel, but my thought is that if you're switching from a Civic to a Cruze diesel for reliability reasons, you're probably moving in the wrong direction. The Cruze diesel will obviously get better mpgs, and will probably be decently reliable - most new cars are. But you don't buy one if your #1 requirement is reliability.


2016 Mazda3 - 20,000 mi.
2011 Toyota Sienna - 100,000 mi.
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710361
03/29/18 09:34 AM
03/29/18 09:34 AM
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Southwestern Alberta
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If it were me Id be driving that civic for at least 5 more years before I even began to consider another new vehicle.


07 GMC Canyon - 204km
01 Saturn SL2 - 240km
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710364
03/29/18 09:36 AM
03/29/18 09:36 AM
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PA,US
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What kind of prices are you seeing the cruze diesel for in your area? Around here they are far more expensive than gas alternatives. Which basically makes the fuel savings not really count for anything.


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Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NateDN10] #4710365
03/29/18 09:37 AM
03/29/18 09:37 AM
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Alabama
NavyVet88 Offline OP
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Alabama
Originally Posted By: NateDN10
From what I understand, the bulletproof reliability of diesel engines is somewhat a thing of the past now that they're more complicated and computerized. I don't have any specific information regarding the reliability of the Cruze diesel, but my thought is that if you're switching from a Civic to a Cruze diesel for reliability reasons, you're probably moving in the wrong direction. The Cruze diesel will obviously get better mpgs, and will probably be decently reliable - most new cars are. But you don't buy one if your #1 requirement is reliability.


Thank you for the advice my friend.


2013 Honda Civic LX 1.8L 140k M1 HM 0w20 with Fram XG7317
2003 Buick Century 3.1L 196k Maxlife 5W-30 with Fram TG3387A
Maintenance Mechanic by trade, working class for life.
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: Warlord] #4710366
03/29/18 09:38 AM
03/29/18 09:38 AM
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Alabama
NavyVet88 Offline OP
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Alabama
Originally Posted By: Warlord
If it were me Id be driving that civic for at least 5 more years before I even began to consider another new vehicle.


ive still got a lot of "goody" left in my civic and will drive it till the wheels fall off most likely


2013 Honda Civic LX 1.8L 140k M1 HM 0w20 with Fram XG7317
2003 Buick Century 3.1L 196k Maxlife 5W-30 with Fram TG3387A
Maintenance Mechanic by trade, working class for life.
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: HemiHawk] #4710368
03/29/18 09:39 AM
03/29/18 09:39 AM
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Alabama
NavyVet88 Offline OP
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Alabama
Originally Posted By: HemiHawk
What kind of prices are you seeing the cruze diesel for in your area? Around here they are far more expensive than gas alternatives. Which basically makes the fuel savings not really count for anything.


going for $22,800 in the particular trim online at the dealer. of course this is minus fees and taxes and such


2013 Honda Civic LX 1.8L 140k M1 HM 0w20 with Fram XG7317
2003 Buick Century 3.1L 196k Maxlife 5W-30 with Fram TG3387A
Maintenance Mechanic by trade, working class for life.
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710370
03/29/18 09:40 AM
03/29/18 09:40 AM
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Toronto, Canada
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Most of the new DI and turbocharged engines offer similar fuel economy, same low end torque but don't have the complex emission systems of modern diesels. Outside of heavy duty use, diesels make little sense.


2015 Dodge Grand Caravan-27k miles.
2006 Mazda 3-163k miles
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710397
03/29/18 10:01 AM
03/29/18 10:01 AM
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Utah, USA
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Utah, USA
Originally Posted By: NavyVet88
Originally Posted By: Warlord
If it were me Id be driving that civic for at least 5 more years before I even began to consider another new vehicle.


ive still got a lot of "goody" left in my civic and will drive it till the wheels fall off most likely


Your Civic is barely 5 years old and only 127k miles? I think you've got another 10 years on it....easy. Probably more. Drive it into the ground. You'll probably be retired before you get it to that stage. USA


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1990 Nissan 300zx - Castrol Edge Euro 0W-40
2004 Nissan Quest - Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40
2003 Ford Excursion 7.3 PSD - Mobil 1 TDT 5w-40
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710400
03/29/18 10:03 AM
03/29/18 10:03 AM
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Canada
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Canada
IMHO in North America you don't purchase a diesel for the fuel economy or the reliability. You purchase it for the powerful torque, and low RPM's at highway speed (sure beats listening to the Civic's hamsters screaming).

The fuel economy is just the added "bonus" (in reality, the cost of diesel specific maintenance negates any financial gains).


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Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710401
03/29/18 10:04 AM
03/29/18 10:04 AM
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Tn.
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Tn.
When you get car fever, any advice is useless,,,they are gonna buy what they want,imho..car fevr eventually goes away, but not until you have wasted your retirement money on a depreciating entity imho


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Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710432
03/29/18 10:33 AM
03/29/18 10:33 AM
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SF BAY AREA, CA
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I'm a GM Fanboy but switching to a Cruze Diesel for reliability? Your 127K mile Civic is probably just as reliable as any new diesel car from any manufacturer. When your Civic has 200K, come back here, then come back and start asking about a replacement car laugh


2010 Ford Escape FWD 2.5 ~90K Miles
Currently: Royal Purple 5W-30, Wix 51348
I prefer Royal Purple, Valvoline, Castrol, and O'Reilly oils.
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710444
03/29/18 10:41 AM
03/29/18 10:41 AM
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Phoenix
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Especially if that 100 mile commute is highway, those are easy miles.


2018 Challenger SRT
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710450
03/29/18 10:44 AM
03/29/18 10:44 AM
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Twin Cities MN USA
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Twin Cities MN USA
If I were doing a 100 mile daily commute, I would keep driving the Civic. That kind of easy mileage would encourage me to run that car to 300,000 miles or more.


2001 Ranger 3.0 159,000 mi
2006 Dakota 4.7 156,000 mi
1986 GL1200A 73,000 mi
2001 Buick LeSabre Limited 291,500 mi
Re: Chevy Cruze diesel question [Re: NavyVet88] #4710472
03/29/18 11:10 AM
03/29/18 11:10 AM
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Georgia
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Georgia
This is Steven Lang. That's right. The world famous Steven Lang.

No, not the guy who did Avatar. The guy who writes about cars and... oh, never mind.

Your Civic is an ideal match for the Alabama highways. You'll get better fuel economy when you factor in the cost differential between diesel and gas. The powertrain on yours can easily last over 300k since you aren't straining the engine at all. Also, this vehicle isn't complicated to maintain. The Cruze has an expensive regimen every 100k that pretty much makes it more expensive to own along with the higher cost of diesel fuel.

As for the reliability of the Cruze, it's not so hot. But that's mostly because of the defect prone 1.4 Liter engine.

http://dashboard-light.com/vehicles/Chevrolet_Cruze.html

All the best!

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