Recent Topics
The wonderful folks at IRS
by BJD78
04/19/18 02:45 PM
Grease Gun Holder
by Patrick0525
04/19/18 02:42 PM
Must colleges disclose donations, by law?
by Ed_Flecko
04/19/18 02:32 PM
How Air Filters Are Made At K&N Engineering
by wemay
04/19/18 02:28 PM
Brakes sticking when wet
by mb32
04/19/18 02:24 PM
Toilets: One piece or two
by NibbanaBanana
04/19/18 02:16 PM
Home Network File Server
by fraso
04/19/18 02:15 PM
Bent rims: repairing vs replacing
by mclasser
04/19/18 02:04 PM
Do you wear much jewelry?
by ZZman
04/19/18 02:04 PM
Shade tree mechanic vs corporate employee?
by motor_oil_madman
04/19/18 01:09 PM
I think I'm gonna buy another Crown Vic...
by dogememe
04/19/18 01:03 PM
2005 MB E500 Mobil 1 0w-40 FS - oxidation
by claluja
04/19/18 12:42 PM
Trail Cams
by AirgunSavant
04/19/18 12:04 PM
Using BITOG Knowledge on Your Mechanic
by camrydriver111
04/19/18 11:06 AM
Nissan Frontier
by old1
04/19/18 10:25 AM
Hello
by AirgunSavant
04/19/18 10:02 AM
06 Colorado, Dreaded P0305 Code...GM says SOL
by Brigadier
04/19/18 09:48 AM
Please school me on Camry afs
by andyd
04/19/18 09:47 AM
Quaker State Blend 5W-30 5qt jug $4.50 - Walmart
by 28oz
04/19/18 09:32 AM
So... are sludged engines a thing of the past?
by SubieRubyRoo
04/19/18 08:22 AM
Newest Members
diphon, Auburn_Alum, joekingcorvette, ARP, Sundayrd
64785 Registered Users
Who's Online
93 registered (4WD, ArrestMeRedZ, alex_at, alienyzf, 28oz, AandPDan, 8 invisible), 1620 Guests and 96 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
64785 Members
68 Forums
281955 Topics
4707247 Posts

Max Online: 3590 @ 01/24/17 08:07 PM
Donate to BITOG
Topic Options
#4710211 - 03/29/18 05:58 AM 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil.
IveBeenRued Offline


Registered: 08/11/14
Posts: 216
Loc: Virginia, USA
Html:
OIL             Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W-20
TOP-OFF OIL	.5 quart total (used about 6-8 ounces every 7500 miles)
FILTER		Fram Ultra XG3614
SUMP CAPACTIY	4.5 QT
MILES IN USE    18.9K
MILES           38.9K   
SAMPLE TAKEN    07/30/2017
LAB:		Oil Analyzers Inc.

Wear Metals (ppm):
ALUMINUM        8
CHROMIUM        0        
IRON            33
COPPER          10
LEAD            0
TIN             0
CADMIUM		0        
SILVER          0
VANADIUM	0        
NICKEL          0        

Contaminant Metals (ppm):
SILICON         13
SODIUM          64
POTASSIUM       0   

Multi-Source Metals (ppm):
TITANIUM        0        
MOLYBDENUM      68
ANTIMONY	0        
MANGANESE       2        
LITHIUM		0
BORON		45

Additive Metals (ppm):
CALCIUM         1192
MAGNESIUM       544
PHOSPHORUS      536
ZINC            665
BARIUM          0        

Contaminants:
FUEL DILUTION	<0.1% Vol
SOOT		<0.1% Vol
WATER           <0.1% - FTIR        

Fluid Properties:     
cSt @ 100 C	8.3
TBN		3.33
OXIDATION	22 abs/cm
NITRATION	16 abs/0.1mm



For those that are unaware, this is a plug-in hybrid. I charge it up nightly and it gets 12-20 miles on a charge depending on the season. My estimate is that during this interval, the internal combustion engine powered the vehicle for about 10-11K miles. Also, given that this is a hybrid, the engine experiences quite a few start-stop cycles in the Northern Virginia traffic. Average mileage was 53.6 MPG.

OEM recommended OIC interval on synthetic blended oil is 20K/2 years for this vehicle. Within 5 miles of this oil change a fuel injector failed which caused an extremely rough start-up and misfiring. I did not want it to throw my numbers off so I changed the oil early.


Edited by IveBeenRued (03/29/18 05:59 AM)
_________________________
2013 Ford C-Max Energi 48,500 Miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Fram Ultra
2012 Subaru Impreza Sport Ltd 119,000 miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Fram Ultra

Top
#4710215 - 03/29/18 06:10 AM Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued]
Artem Offline


Registered: 10/30/10
Posts: 5085
Loc: Florida
Kinda hard to judge these hybrids since a good chunk of the miles are electric. Still awesome to see. Thanks.
_________________________
2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart.

Top
#4710507 - 03/29/18 11:49 AM Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued]
CharlieBauer Offline


Registered: 03/29/16
Posts: 1174
Loc: CA
Looks like you changed it at a good time.

EP 0w20 is a good choice. Don't think I'd like to run a semi syn.
_________________________
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that ain't so.

- mistakenly attributed to Mark Twain

Top
#4710594 - 03/29/18 01:39 PM Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued]
4WD Online   confused


Registered: 09/21/10
Posts: 5950
Loc: Texas/International
What is the OLM doing? … no way my (Non Energi) Fusion Hybrid lets me go any longer than my ICE cars …

Always figured Ford’s algorithm took tough duty starts into account …
_________________________
2017 Tahoe 5.3L 4WD
2014 Fusion Hybrid
2013 Cruze RS 1.4T
2010 Canyon 5.3L 4WD

Top
#4710620 - 03/29/18 02:24 PM Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: Artem]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 6506
Loc: Hudson, NH
Originally Posted By: Artem
Kinda hard to judge these hybrids since a good chunk of the miles are electric. Still awesome to see. Thanks.


Good point. Do you have a way to calculate/deduct miles running electric?
_________________________
06 Escalade 6.0L AWD 155k. M1 EP 5w30 Fram TG
03 Maxima 3.5L Unknown miles ST 10w30

Top
#4710951 - 03/29/18 09:23 PM Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued]
Unearthed Offline


Registered: 12/31/09
Posts: 324
Loc: USA
Is this the 2.0L hybrid? Ford specs 0w-20 synthetic blend for this engine at 20K for the plug ins and 10k for the hybrids. Everything I've seen shows these being really easy on oil. Crazy to me because of the stopping and starting. I have 4k on my new hybrid.
_________________________
2015 Civic Si
2014 VW Sportwagen
2003 Suzuki vz800

Top
#4711124 - 03/30/18 04:52 AM Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued]
IveBeenRued Offline


Registered: 08/11/14
Posts: 216
Loc: Virginia, USA
4WD, the OLM on this car is not the best because it just give you a warning when you have about 500 miles remaining on the interval and then when an oil change is required. I prefer Ford's previous iteration which gave a percentage of oil life remaining. To test how long of an interval the computer was calculating I reset the OLM at the beginning of this interval and then DIDN'T reset it after I changed the oil (because it was an early change). In the end, the OLM started indicating to change my oil "soon" at 23,462 miles which puts the overall calculated interval at just shy of 24K miles. Based on this UOA, I am not sure if I'd push for a 24K OCI and I will likely NOT be relying on the OLM for my oil change intervals.

Leakyseals, Yes I do have a way to deduct the number of electric miles but unfortunately because my gauge-cluster failed during this OCI and when the dealer replaced it, my trip odometers were reset and I lost my data. Additionally, something failed within the 12V charging system which caused my battery to fail at during this interval which caused me to lose my trip odometers again, but at least I got a fresh battery out of it. (For those keeping track, that means that during an <19K interval, this vehicle had a bad fuel injector, bad 12V charging system, bad battery, and bad gauge cluster. This is all without me mentioning the brake/suspension/window/door components that also had to be replaced during this interval...this will be my last Ford.)

Unearthed, Yes, this is a 2.0L Plug-in Hybrid which is spec'd for a 20K OCI on syn blend. I have enough M1EP to keep this thing going for another 100K miles with 20K intervals so I am probably just going to stick to that.
_________________________
2013 Ford C-Max Energi 48,500 Miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Fram Ultra
2012 Subaru Impreza Sport Ltd 119,000 miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Fram Ultra

Top