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2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. #4710211
03/29/18 04:58 AM
03/29/18 04:58 AM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 237
Virginia, USA
IveBeenRued Offline OP
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Html:
OIL             Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W-20
TOP-OFF OIL	.5 quart total (used about 6-8 ounces every 7500 miles)
FILTER		Fram Ultra XG3614
SUMP CAPACTIY	4.5 QT
MILES IN USE    18.9K
MILES           38.9K   
SAMPLE TAKEN    07/30/2017
LAB:		Oil Analyzers Inc.

Wear Metals (ppm):
ALUMINUM        8
CHROMIUM        0        
IRON            33
COPPER          10
LEAD            0
TIN             0
CADMIUM		0        
SILVER          0
VANADIUM	0        
NICKEL          0        

Contaminant Metals (ppm):
SILICON         13
SODIUM          64
POTASSIUM       0   

Multi-Source Metals (ppm):
TITANIUM        0        
MOLYBDENUM      68
ANTIMONY	0        
MANGANESE       2        
LITHIUM		0
BORON		45

Additive Metals (ppm):
CALCIUM         1192
MAGNESIUM       544
PHOSPHORUS      536
ZINC            665
BARIUM          0        

Contaminants:
FUEL DILUTION	<0.1% Vol
SOOT		<0.1% Vol
WATER           <0.1% - FTIR        

Fluid Properties:     
cSt @ 100 C	8.3
TBN		3.33
OXIDATION	22 abs/cm
NITRATION	16 abs/0.1mm



For those that are unaware, this is a plug-in hybrid. I charge it up nightly and it gets 12-20 miles on a charge depending on the season. My estimate is that during this interval, the internal combustion engine powered the vehicle for about 10-11K miles. Also, given that this is a hybrid, the engine experiences quite a few start-stop cycles in the Northern Virginia traffic. Average mileage was 53.6 MPG.

OEM recommended OIC interval on synthetic blended oil is 20K/2 years for this vehicle. Within 5 miles of this oil change a fuel injector failed which caused an extremely rough start-up and misfiring. I did not want it to throw my numbers off so I changed the oil early.

Last edited by IveBeenRued; 03/29/18 04:59 AM.

2013 Ford C-Max Energi 58,500 Miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Motorcraft filter
2012 Subaru Impreza Sport Ltd 127,000 miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Fram Ultra
Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued] #4710215
03/29/18 05:10 AM
03/29/18 05:10 AM
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Florida
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Kinda hard to judge these hybrids since a good chunk of the miles are electric. Still awesome to see. Thanks.


2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart. (thanks Advance Auto Parts for the awesome deal)
Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued] #4710507
03/29/18 10:49 AM
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Looks like you changed it at a good time.

EP 0w20 is a good choice. Don't think I'd like to run a semi syn.


It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that ain't so.

- mistakenly attributed to Mark Twain
Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued] #4710594
03/29/18 12:39 PM
03/29/18 12:39 PM
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Texas & Global
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What is the OLM doing? … no way my (Non Energi) Fusion Hybrid lets me go any longer than my ICE cars …

Always figured Ford’s algorithm took tough duty starts into account …


2018 Chevy 1500 Z71 4WD
2017 Chevy Tahoe LT 4WD
2014 Fusion Hybrid Titanium
2013 Cruze LTZ - RS Turbo
Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: Artem] #4710620
03/29/18 01:24 PM
03/29/18 01:24 PM
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Hudson, NH
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Originally Posted By: Artem
Kinda hard to judge these hybrids since a good chunk of the miles are electric. Still awesome to see. Thanks.


Good point. Do you have a way to calculate/deduct miles running electric?


06 Escalade 6.0L LQ9 AWD 165k M1 0w40
03 Maxima 3.5L POS 152k ST HM 10w30
Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued] #4710951
03/29/18 08:23 PM
03/29/18 08:23 PM
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Is this the 2.0L hybrid? Ford specs 0w-20 synthetic blend for this engine at 20K for the plug ins and 10k for the hybrids. Everything I've seen shows these being really easy on oil. Crazy to me because of the stopping and starting. I have 4k on my new hybrid.


2015 Civic Si
2014 VW Sportwagen
2003 Suzuki vz800
Re: 2013 Ford C-Max Energi M1EP 18,904 Miles on oil. [Re: IveBeenRued] #4711124
03/30/18 03:52 AM
03/30/18 03:52 AM
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Virginia, USA
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4WD, the OLM on this car is not the best because it just give you a warning when you have about 500 miles remaining on the interval and then when an oil change is required. I prefer Ford's previous iteration which gave a percentage of oil life remaining. To test how long of an interval the computer was calculating I reset the OLM at the beginning of this interval and then DIDN'T reset it after I changed the oil (because it was an early change). In the end, the OLM started indicating to change my oil "soon" at 23,462 miles which puts the overall calculated interval at just shy of 24K miles. Based on this UOA, I am not sure if I'd push for a 24K OCI and I will likely NOT be relying on the OLM for my oil change intervals.

Leakyseals, Yes I do have a way to deduct the number of electric miles but unfortunately because my gauge-cluster failed during this OCI and when the dealer replaced it, my trip odometers were reset and I lost my data. Additionally, something failed within the 12V charging system which caused my battery to fail at during this interval which caused me to lose my trip odometers again, but at least I got a fresh battery out of it. (For those keeping track, that means that during an <19K interval, this vehicle had a bad fuel injector, bad 12V charging system, bad battery, and bad gauge cluster. This is all without me mentioning the brake/suspension/window/door components that also had to be replaced during this interval...this will be my last Ford.)

Unearthed, Yes, this is a 2.0L Plug-in Hybrid which is spec'd for a 20K OCI on syn blend. I have enough M1EP to keep this thing going for another 100K miles with 20K intervals so I am probably just going to stick to that.


2013 Ford C-Max Energi 58,500 Miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Motorcraft filter
2012 Subaru Impreza Sport Ltd 127,000 miles
Mobil 1 EP 0W-20|Fram Ultra

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