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Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover #4709710
03/28/18 02:41 PM
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Ran some pirelli scorpion winter tires on dedicated wheel this year on the crossover and have been very pleased over using all-seasons in this midwest winter.

The time has come to change to the factory 17" wheels and I need new rubber to replace the shot factory bridgestone duelers that didn't last long.

Should I get All-seasons or real summer tires, and what would you recommend for good milage and good durability for a long commute on mostly rough rural asphalt and gravel roads?

SOHC


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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709715
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Good durability and summer only tires don't mix.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual

Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709720
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I think a good touring tire is called for here!

I plan to go this route on my Subaru when the factory tires wear out.


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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709729
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I'll be putting a set of Goodyear Assurance WeatherReady tires on the CX-5 next time Discount Tire has a sale. Seems like a promising tire, I'd love to have a set of dedicated winter tires/wheels but I don't have the space for it. Might want to take a look at these.


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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709731
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I don't think a summer tire would have a problem being run on gravel roads often, but its kind of a waste as well. Maybe some of them get into tread chipping problems when run near freezing? My driveway is more like a logging road and I've never chipped my BFG sportcomp2 near freezing but that's only a half mile a day at ~20mph.
If you ran mostly pavement summers would be good as more grip and especially wet grip is always a good thing, but some of the all season tires are getting close in wet grip as well.


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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709752
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It depends on what crossover vehicle you have, your driving style and the other 3 season temps you experience in your area. SUMMER tires can become less than ideal as temps drop below 50-40 F or even worst the further down the temps drop, especially in the wet. IMO, summer tires are too limited for everyday-ness.

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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709753
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Agree that pure summer tires are likely a waste, especially in the longevity department. Plus, you'll lose flexibility when the weather starts to turn in the fall.


I use the overseas owner's manual to choose my oil.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 146k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: Char Baby] #4709771
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Originally Posted By: Char Baby
It depends on what crossover vehicle you have, your driving style and the other 3 season temps you experience in your area. SUMMER tires can become less than ideal as temps drop below 50-40 F or even worst the further down the temps drop, especially in the wet. IMO, summer tires are too limited for everyday-ness.


Ok, looks like summer tires are out.

It's for a FWD CR-V, Yes, wet traction is important to. I would say out of maybe 100 miles a day, 95% is paved, but it is pretty rough and potholed in places. Sometimes several redline passes a day depending on how many tractors or grain-trucks are using the roads. Regardless, some spirited driving is involved.

Thanks!

SOHC


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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709776
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Redline passes.......those tractor trailer trucks must be doing in excess of 80mph.......

Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: CKN] #4709874
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Originally Posted By: CKN
Redline passes.......those tractor trailer trucks must be doing in excess of 80mph.......





It's not for the trucks, it's to safely resume my original lane as quickly as possible to make way for oncoming traffic.

Don't know about you, but I don't make a habit of loitering in the oncoming lane.

Cheers


I urge people not to wait 100K to change out the fluid in their transfer case units. -Kestas
Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709922
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All season


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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709958
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Michelin Defenders from Discount Tire. Get your alignment checked/tweaked every now and then, rotate them at 6K intervals, and if they don't make it to the promised 90K miles (they probably won't), DT has always been good to me about pro-rating that gets me a new set for 1/2-2/3 of the cost of the first set.

Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4709992
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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: SOHCman] #4710029
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Cooper Discoverer SRX with a H speed rating


2019 VW Tiguan SE Now: Factory fill & OEM filter
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Re: Summer tires vs All-seasons for crossover [Re: MParr] #4710040
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Originally Posted By: MParr
Cooper Discoverer SRX with a H speed rating


+1 Have them on our FWD escape. Excellent tire in the wet and dry. Sturdy sidewall as well.

They also perform very well in snow if you dont get your winter tires on before the first snowfall. In Southwest Ohio we run all seasons year round as we don't get a lot of heavy snow generally.


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