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Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T #4709005
03/27/18 09:44 PM
03/27/18 09:44 PM
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Alabama
jwa Offline OP
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Alabama
Haven't reached my first change yet, but OLM seems to be counting down 10% every 1000 miles, so i'd guess it wants ~10k OCIs.

1. What kind of vehicle you have
- 2018 Civic Sport.

2. What your owner's manual says -- not just viscosity, but certifications (look for acronyms like API SM, ILSAC GF-4, etc.) and change intervals as well
- 0w-20, API certified

3. Where you live
- North AL

4. How you drive (easy? hard? fast? slow?)
- Some of everything

5. What your daily drive is like (short trips? long trips? city? highway?)
- Daily commute is about 32 miles round trip, 90% highway/interstate.

6. Whether your car has any known problems
- Have heard fuel dilution is a common issue with DI turbos.


From reading around some I've seen that M1 EP/AP are 60-70% PAO which might make them a good fit for a 0w-20 in a turbo.

Tried to do some research on the Honda brand full synthetic, couldn't really find much: Honda 0w-20 MSDS, PQIA . I'm not 100% sure what i'm looking for though.

I've also considered Motul 8100 Eco-Lite 0w-20. Maybe would like to try Redline in the future but for now am sticking with API certified oils while under warranty just in case.

Right now I'm leaning towards just getting some M1 0w-20 EP and a M1 EP filter from Walmart. Thoughts? Would Motul (or something else) offer any advantages over cheaper M1?


Thanks!

Last edited by jwa; 03/27/18 09:57 PM.

2000 BMW 328i - Motul X-Max 5w-30
2018 Honda Civic Sport Hatchback, factory fill oil laugh
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709018
03/27/18 09:53 PM
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Soviet State of Washington
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Lots of threads here about your Earth Dreams 1.5. TGDI engines are prone to fuel dilution and yours unfortunately is the example used most often. Watch your dipstick level for any rise in oil volume or fuel smell. Stick with the d1G2 oils and consider a 5k oil change. Poster Danh has a lot of experience in this instance.


2017 Mazda CX-5 Grand Touring

Valvoline Advanced Synthetic 0w20
Mobil 1 M108A EP filter

Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709042
03/27/18 10:15 PM
03/27/18 10:15 PM
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WI.
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I run Castrol 0/40






16 Civic Coupe Touring 33k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 141k
640:1 TCW-3
M1 0/40 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709047
03/27/18 10:24 PM
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Oregon
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If you want to stick with 0W-20 M1 EP would be my choice. Changed every 5k.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709083
03/27/18 11:32 PM
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USA
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Nothing wrong with using any of the M1 0w20 offerings. They will serve you well in terms of good performance and service life and warranty compliance.

Amazon has Idemitsu's Zepro 0w20 at a good price. This particular one is their "advanced moly" formula. I know some people on here like moly, and the Japanese OEM's like it, too. Idemitsu is an OE supplier to most if not all the Japanese car companies, and they do a lot of business with Honda. Amazon does offer Idemitsu's other 0w20 formulas for $23-25 for the 5qt jug. All are API SN/RC, and at least one is d1g2.

The Motul seems like great stuff and worth considering as well.

Another good option is Liqui-Moly. They probably have a good 0w20, and their products are available at almost any Napa.

My first choice would be Idemitsu, then Motul, then any of the M1 variants, then anything dexos1 gen2.

Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709086
03/27/18 11:39 PM
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Kansan,1911 45ACP fan
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0w20/0w30 Redline Oil


15' Civic 179k.0w20 Redline/Archoil9100,Eibach,Yokohama/Borla Exhaust/Tein Suspension/Fu7317/Redline Si-1
Right to work state proud. Non union household
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709108
03/28/18 12:32 AM
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TX
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TX
Amsoil SS0w20/5w30 all day long


2016 Honda Pilot 3.5V6 PP 0W20
2017 Honda Civic 1.5T Amsoil SS 5W30
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709144
03/28/18 03:59 AM
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Kendall, FL
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AFE 0W-20


'18 KIA Sportage LX AWD: Mobil Super Synthetic 10w30
'13 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T: EDGE 5w30
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709153
03/28/18 04:37 AM
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Finland
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Any oil brand thats carrying spec of Acea a5. acea a1 its not for turbos engines. My own experience with Honda engines is that they run best on 0w-30, 5w-30

Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709200
03/28/18 06:48 AM
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A UOA would be very interesting. The Sport has a little more HP and recommends premium over the slightly lesser 1.5T Civics. Maybe Honda has the Sport model tuned a little better and is less subject to fuel dilution.


Wife: 15' Audi A4 quattro 6 speed manual
Me: 13' VW GTI 3 door 6 speed manual
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709277
03/28/18 08:13 AM
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Great White North.. eh
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This would be an interesting read... anyone have access to it?

https://www.sae.org/publications/technical-papers/content/2015-01-0967/

The oil and OCI would depend on how long you want to keep the car.


17 Cadillac ATS 2.0T, Edge D1G2 5w30, XG10575
17 Dodge GC, VWB 5w20, Fram DL11665
15 DL650, Rotella T6 5w40, KN-138
Small engines; RT5 10w30
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: wemay] #4709321
03/28/18 08:47 AM
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MTL, CANADA
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Originally Posted By: wemay
AFE 0W-20


+1


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: Rolla07] #4709369
03/28/18 09:31 AM
03/28/18 09:31 AM
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Alabama
jwa Offline OP
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I plan on sending in some samples for analysis to check on this fuel dilution issue. Whatís the consensus here on Blackstone vs. Oil analyzers?

Also Iíll probably end up on Redline oil or a 0w30 (or both) but for now Iím interested in just sticking to what it says in the manual and keeping the receipts. Who knows, may not even be worth it though.

Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Originally Posted By: wemay
AFE 0W-20


+1


Why AFE over EP or AP? I thought the longer OCI variants were more robust.


2000 BMW 328i - Motul X-Max 5w-30
2018 Honda Civic Sport Hatchback, factory fill oil laugh
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709382
03/28/18 09:42 AM
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I'd use HONDA oil in mine and follow the the OLM set on sever service if you have a choice. Ed


CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: Oil for 2018 Honda Civic Sport 1.5T [Re: jwa] #4709414
03/28/18 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: jwa
I plan on sending in some samples for analysis to check on this fuel dilution issue. Whatís the consensus here on Blackstone vs. Oil analyzers?

Also Iíll probably end up on Redline oil or a 0w30 (or both) but for now Iím interested in just sticking to what it says in the manual and keeping the receipts. Who knows, may not even be worth it though.

Originally Posted By: Rolla07
Originally Posted By: wemay
AFE 0W-20


+1


Why AFE over EP or AP? I thought the longer OCI variants were more robust.


Of fuel dilution is a concern definitely go with Oil Analyzers. They use gas chromotography, which is about as good a method as consumers can find. Blackstone uses human observation of a sampleís flashpoint, which seems to always underestimate dilution by a lot.

One hint if you use Oil Analyzers: if the sample viscosity looks OK they may shortcut and assume dilution isnít an issue (the report will say <1% or similar). When you submit the sample mention fuel dilution is a concern and please use gas chromotography even if viscosity looks OK; the report should then give a percentage with ďGCĒ next to it.

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