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New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech #4707927
03/26/18 08:13 PM
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AnonOIl Offline OP
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Thoughts on which is better? Just thought about it on the drive home, always looking for good cheap products to save some money. I really like Supertech oil, I have used it with no problems before, but I have always gotten nicer Purolator or Wix filters. But from the budget oil filters at Walmart, would you go with a Fram Extra Guard or a New Supertech oil filter and why?

Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4707930
03/26/18 08:17 PM
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Depending on application(car), I would run ST oil filter, no problem.


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4707932
03/26/18 08:19 PM
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I have never liked the SuperTech ADBV's.... They just don't last (Champ or Wix)

I'd definitely run the new Fram Extra Guard instead - - - for like, a whole $1 more?


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: maverickfhs] #4707942
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AnonOIl Offline OP
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I drive a 2004 Highlander, 4 cylinder. Lot's of short trips, short commutes to college and work place 1, and a long-ish drive (30min/30miles) once a week to work place 2. I am a penny pincher (I am cheap as [censored]) to be honest but that is kind of just my current position overall being in school and working 2 jobs. I like so save where I can haha. Thanks for the info! I keep OCI's around 5k btw as per owners manual.

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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: Linctex] #4707945
03/26/18 08:34 PM
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AnonOIl Offline OP
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Yup, the price is super close. Like ~$3 vs ~$4. I am definitely cheap, but ~$1 still won't kill me for the better ADBV. Thanks for the info!

Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4707955
03/26/18 08:51 PM
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I'd use the Fram. Millions of them out there on the road, not a pretty filter but gets the job done.


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: Nick1994] #4707974
03/26/18 09:10 PM
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The newer Fram orange cans have looked a fair amount better than they used to Nick 1994. My 7317 looked really great after I cut it open. And I have seen the ph 8s look a good amount better compared to how they used to look.


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4707977
03/26/18 09:11 PM
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Now Fram PH filters have silicone ADBV, definitely worth the extra buck.


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: 69Torino] #4707983
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The new ST is E-core with the plastic cage, which doesn't work in cars that use spin-on filters. The ones that aren't Ecores have the louvers which may or may not be fully opened properly (Hastings/Baldwin/Clarcor is the only company that seems to know hoe to make them, and they use a different design). Fram uses round holes in their center tubes. Plus, the orange cans use a silicone ADBV now, too

Originally Posted By: 69Torino
Now Fram PH filters have silicone ADBV, definitely worth the extra buck.


+1

came here to say this thumbsup

Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: Nick1994] #4707995
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AnonOIl Offline OP
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Everyone seems to be saying Fram is the way to go!

Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: bbhero] #4707996
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AnonOIl Offline OP
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Everyone appears to be liking the new Fram filters. Thanks!

Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4708021
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For the $1 more I'd run the Orange Can Fram with the silicon ADBV.


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4708022
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The ST10358 cartridge apparently IS an ExtraGuard (the older US-made version) in a different box. I didn't similarly compare Supertech to Fram in other cartridge models, so don't know the same is true of them. (It's obviously not true of spin-ons.)


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl] #4708082
03/27/18 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: AnonOIl
I drive a 2004 Highlander, 4 cylinder. Lot's of short trips, short commutes to college and work place 1, and a long-ish drive (30min/30miles) once a week to work place 2. I am a penny pincher (I am cheap as [censored]) to be honest but that is kind of just my current position overall being in school and working 2 jobs. I like so save where I can haha. Thanks for the info! I keep OCI's around 5k btw as per owners manual.


For the price, both of those filters are a lousy deal. You are much better off buying the Genuine Toyota oil filters for $3.50/ea shipped:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ten-10-90915-YZZF1-Genuine-Toyota-Oil-Filters-w-Drain-Gaskets-Camry-Rav4/351808703826?hash=item51e96ecd52:g:f5oAAOSwoudW8BJa&vxp=mtr


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Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: 69Torino] #4708100
03/27/18 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted By: 69Torino
Now Fram PH filters have silicone ADBV, definitely worth the extra buck.


Easy decision.... Fram EG over Supertech.


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