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#4707927 - 03/26/18 09:13 PM New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech
AnonOIl Offline


Registered: 10/01/17
Posts: 37
Loc: GA, USA
Thoughts on which is better? Just thought about it on the drive home, always looking for good cheap products to save some money. I really like Supertech oil, I have used it with no problems before, but I have always gotten nicer Purolator or Wix filters. But from the budget oil filters at Walmart, would you go with a Fram Extra Guard or a New Supertech oil filter and why?

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#4707930 - 03/26/18 09:17 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
maverickfhs Offline


Registered: 12/28/16
Posts: 2076
Loc: VA
Depending on application(car), I would run ST oil filter, no problem.
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#4707932 - 03/26/18 09:19 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
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Loc: Waco, TX
I have never liked the SuperTech ADBV's.... They just don't last (Champ or Wix)

I'd definitely run the new Fram Extra Guard instead - - - for like, a whole $1 more?
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#4707942 - 03/26/18 09:31 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: maverickfhs]
AnonOIl Offline


Registered: 10/01/17
Posts: 37
Loc: GA, USA
I drive a 2004 Highlander, 4 cylinder. Lot's of short trips, short commutes to college and work place 1, and a long-ish drive (30min/30miles) once a week to work place 2. I am a penny pincher (I am cheap as [censored]) to be honest but that is kind of just my current position overall being in school and working 2 jobs. I like so save where I can haha. Thanks for the info! I keep OCI's around 5k btw as per owners manual.


Edited by AnonOIl (03/26/18 09:32 PM)

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#4707945 - 03/26/18 09:34 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: Linctex]
AnonOIl Offline


Registered: 10/01/17
Posts: 37
Loc: GA, USA
Yup, the price is super close. Like ~$3 vs ~$4. I am definitely cheap, but ~$1 still won't kill me for the better ADBV. Thanks for the info!

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#4707955 - 03/26/18 09:51 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
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Registered: 02/19/13
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
I'd use the Fram. Millions of them out there on the road, not a pretty filter but gets the job done.
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#4707974 - 03/26/18 10:10 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: Nick1994]
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Registered: 03/20/15
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The newer Fram orange cans have looked a fair amount better than they used to Nick 1994. My 7317 looked really great after I cut it open. And I have seen the ph 8s look a good amount better compared to how they used to look.
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#4707977 - 03/26/18 10:11 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
69Torino Offline


Registered: 12/12/17
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Loc: Indy
Now Fram PH filters have silicone ADBV, definitely worth the extra buck.
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#4707983 - 03/26/18 10:15 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: 69Torino]
slacktide_bitog Offline


Registered: 03/20/08
Posts: 6392
Loc: USA
The new ST is E-core with the plastic cage, which doesn't work in cars that use spin-on filters. The ones that aren't Ecores have the louvers which may or may not be fully opened properly (Hastings/Baldwin/Clarcor is the only company that seems to know hoe to make them, and they use a different design). Fram uses round holes in their center tubes. Plus, the orange cans use a silicone ADBV now, too

Originally Posted By: 69Torino
Now Fram PH filters have silicone ADBV, definitely worth the extra buck.


+1

came here to say this thumbsup

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#4707995 - 03/26/18 10:33 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: Nick1994]
AnonOIl Offline


Registered: 10/01/17
Posts: 37
Loc: GA, USA
Everyone seems to be saying Fram is the way to go!

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#4707996 - 03/26/18 10:34 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: bbhero]
AnonOIl Offline


Registered: 10/01/17
Posts: 37
Loc: GA, USA
Everyone appears to be liking the new Fram filters. Thanks!

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#4708021 - 03/26/18 11:01 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
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Registered: 07/04/16
Posts: 1431
Loc: Jacksonville, FL
For the $1 more I'd run the Orange Can Fram with the silicon ADBV.
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#4708022 - 03/26/18 11:03 PM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
CR94 Offline


Registered: 03/20/16
Posts: 1193
Loc: Western S.C. since 1996
The ST10358 cartridge apparently IS an ExtraGuard (the older US-made version) in a different box. I didn't similarly compare Supertech to Fram in other cartridge models, so don't know the same is true of them. (It's obviously not true of spin-ons.)
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#4708082 - 03/27/18 01:36 AM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: AnonOIl]
The Critic Offline


Registered: 08/30/04
Posts: 19888
Loc: CA
Originally Posted By: AnonOIl
I drive a 2004 Highlander, 4 cylinder. Lot's of short trips, short commutes to college and work place 1, and a long-ish drive (30min/30miles) once a week to work place 2. I am a penny pincher (I am cheap as [censored]) to be honest but that is kind of just my current position overall being in school and working 2 jobs. I like so save where I can haha. Thanks for the info! I keep OCI's around 5k btw as per owners manual.


For the price, both of those filters are a lousy deal. You are much better off buying the Genuine Toyota oil filters for $3.50/ea shipped:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ten-10-90915-YZZF1-Genuine-Toyota-Oil-Filters-w-Drain-Gaskets-Camry-Rav4/351808703826?hash=item51e96ecd52:g:f5oAAOSwoudW8BJa&vxp=mtr
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#4708100 - 03/27/18 03:04 AM Re: New Fram Extra Guard vs New Supertech [Re: 69Torino]
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Registered: 12/04/04
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Loc: 1/2 hr. north of Detroit
Originally Posted By: 69Torino
Now Fram PH filters have silicone ADBV, definitely worth the extra buck.


Easy decision.... Fram EG over Supertech.

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