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#4706451 - 03/25/18 03:00 PM Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong...
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 434
Loc: New York
Does anyone have experience with tape pinstripe removal? I did it once before on an older car and I was able to easily remove all of the pinstripe with no trouble.

I bought a car recently and noticed the pinstripe is deteriorating on the driver side toward the rear of the car. It has cracks through it and looks thin. So I used the same technique I did last time, hair dryer with a soft plastic scraper to lift the pinstripe. I started on the driver side, the side that had the deterioration toward the rear.

Starting from the front I removed the pinstripe at a good clip and it looked great underneath. As I started to remove the deteriorating pinstripe toward the rear is when things started to go terribly wrong. Every time I would lift the pinstripe, I would see some black under the pinstripe. The car's color is Modern Steel Metallic which is a metallic gray.

This black under the pinstripe is my big issue, I have no idea what it is. As the deterioration increases toward the rear of the car, the amount of black being exposed increases as I remove the pinstripe.

1. Looking at the light the black appears raised but I can't tell if it's just the line the pinstripe makes in the clear coat. It looks like some kind of adhesive but it's as shiny as the clear coat is, no color transfer occurs and acetone does nothing to it. Acetone dissolved the other adhesive toward the front with no problem so I don't see why it wouldn't work here unless this was some extremely hardened adhesive.
2. I tried some SwirlX to see if it was above the paint or something, no color transfer, no difference.
3. Clay bar does nothing as well.
4. I can just barely grab it with my fingernail, slides past it.
5. This car is a 2015, the pinstripes haven't even been on there that long. I've removed pinstripes of this same type from older cars with no issues.

At this point I'm a little upset. If I can't fix this I'll either have to paint over it or get another pinstripe and put pinstripes back on.

I don't see how the tape pinstripe could have damaged the actual paint under the clear without damaging the clear itself since the clear is still there and shiny. I don't even know what this black stuff is. Should I be using something other than acetone?

Here are some pictures of what I'm dealing with. I hope this shows that the black stuff is as shiny as the clear coat and almost uninterrupted when looking at both the black stuff and clear coat. It appears the black stuff is only under the white parts of the pinstripe, because where the pinstripes have cracks, the black stuff also has cracks.





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#4706490 - 03/25/18 03:35 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
silveravant Offline


Registered: 01/03/15
Posts: 250
Loc: Cleveland, OH
I sorry I can't offer any help, but I would never use acetone on the paint of any car.

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#4706492 - 03/25/18 03:38 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
Snagglefoot Offline


Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1905
Loc: SE British Columbia, Canada
Try the "Pin Stripe" remover at the auto stores. It's probably acetone, or toluene or some combination but hey, they say it removes pin stripes.

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#4706497 - 03/25/18 03:40 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: silveravant]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 434
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: silveravant
I sorry I can't offer any help, but I would never use acetone on the paint of any car.

I want to re-iterate that this was like this before I used the acetone. I only use the acetone to remove the sticky adhesive faster, rubbing alcohol works just as well.

Just peeling the pinstripe off produces the result shown above, before I even touch it with acetone or alcohol.

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#4706498 - 03/25/18 03:40 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: silveravant]
Nyquist Offline


Registered: 10/24/08
Posts: 967
Loc: Iowa
It almost looks like hardened adhesive. Perhaps a body shop would have some ideas on how to remove it.
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#4706502 - 03/25/18 03:45 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: Snagglefoot]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 434
Loc: New York
Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
Try the "Pin Stripe" remover at the auto stores. It's probably acetone, or toluene or some combination but hey, they say it removes pin stripes.

The closest thing I could find is 3M adhesive remover. Should I try that?

I wonder if I should try a rubber eraser wheel.

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#4706509 - 03/25/18 03:56 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
dave123 Offline


Registered: 01/13/09
Posts: 2336
Loc: wi
Toluene would be first start really should mot use acetone as some one that uses thousands of gallons of it you donít wonít to start it maybe MEK

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#4706514 - 03/25/18 04:01 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
Rand Online   content


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12721
Loc: NE,Ohio
goo gone? its citrus based iirc so no paint damage.

maybe try wd-40.. wont damage paint
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#4706519 - 03/25/18 04:05 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
NoNameJoe Offline


Registered: 06/03/15
Posts: 434
Loc: New York
Ordered an eraser wheel. I think it needs some mechanical action, I need something to grip the black stuff and if it is above surface, pull it off. Lord help me if this goes wrong rofl.

I will post an update when I use it, even if it's a fail of epic proportions.

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#4706526 - 03/25/18 04:14 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: Snagglefoot]
Trav Offline


Registered: 11/20/06
Posts: 19284
Loc: MA, Mittelfranken.de
Stop with the solvents, soon you will find one that works perfectly and the paint will be gone or softened.
The 3M stuff is okay but use a wheel to remove stripes and adhesive. When you use these keep it moving and don't let it sit in one spot and heat the paint.

You can get these at any autobody supply store, once its all gone a light buff will make it flawless.

https://www.amazon.com/3M-Stripe-Wheel-D...YYQQ5RMHGAAFDGC

Edit: I see you already ordered one before I posted this.


Edited by Trav (03/25/18 04:16 PM)
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#4706527 - 03/25/18 04:15 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
Rand Online   content


Registered: 08/20/03
Posts: 12721
Loc: NE,Ohio
Originally Posted By: NoNameJoe
Ordered an eraser wheel. I think it needs some mechanical action, I need something to grip the black stuff and if it is above surface, pull it off. Lord help me if this goes wrong rofl.

I will post an update when I use it, even if it's a fail of epic proportions.


I would still try some goo gone.. I've taken off gorilla tape residue that was years old in seconds..

I would apply with a microfiber rag let it soak in for 30seconds or so then see what happens with a little rubbing action.. possibly switching to a soapy rag.
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#4706550 - 03/25/18 04:37 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: Rand]
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Registered: 09/06/15
Posts: 5612
Loc: Kalifornia Kollective
Originally Posted By: Rand
goo gone? its citrus based iirc so no paint damage.

maybe try wd-40.. wont damage paint


+1

Kerosene is the natural adhesive solvent for many adhesives. WD-40 is a good substitute. Goo-Gone is good.

No Acetone - it'll kill the paint. Over time it will start to fade/haze where ever you used it ...

3M makes a decal remover disc that will help. Be gentle ...



Edited by BrocLuno (03/25/18 04:38 PM)
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#4706589 - 03/25/18 05:07 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
69GTX Offline


Registered: 09/23/15
Posts: 3815
Loc: Connecticut
I removed an old 1969 Dodge SuperBee bumble bee stripe from the rear (6" wide) just using baby oil + rubbing alcohol, and a hair dryer. Once done, you could barely tell it was there. A body shop finished by buffing it out for me....looked perfect. It took me several hours, and it came off in varying sizes and chunks. A lot is dependent on how long it has been on the car, if it's baked on hard, etc.
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#4706635 - 03/25/18 05:53 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
Posts: 6618
Loc: Hudson, NH
Yeah, the stripe wheel. I used the similar 3m eraser wheel because i didn't know they had a stripe wheel. That also worked.
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#4706818 - 03/25/18 08:14 PM Re: Tape pinstripe removal gone wrong... [Re: NoNameJoe]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6186
Loc: Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: NoNameJoe
Ordered an eraser wheel. I think it needs some mechanical action, I need something to grip the black stuff and if it is above surface, pull it off.


It needs to spin very fast, several 1000 rpm's

a regular drill isn't fast enough
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