Patman, difference of opinion there might be I was driving the b-body variant that made a little more torque a fair bit sooner. I think it was actually the f-body/Vette cam that was compromised to limit lowend and keep keep the f-body axle alive. In bolton form the f-body and b-body made the same numbers despite the "smaller" cam in the b-body, less lift, less duration and tighter lobe separation, the later being what brought the torque in sooner. If memory serves it was rated +/-5tq depending on year but did so 1000rpm sooner and with less compression on 87 octane fuel, it had 300-800lbs more car with [censored] gearing to push around so torque was more important.
I know what the published numbers are on motors but in driving feel don't buy it atall, I suspect the pcm may not actually let those numbers be reached real world torque management and all but EVERYONE I know familiar with the older smallblocks and LS1 agrees the gen 3 does not respond like the gen 1/2. Drive a TPI or gen 2 LT1 then and LS1 and you will understand.
All that said I am not an eco-freak but am a believer in electric, if you get a chance to drive one do it. As time goes on the cost savings of no complicated engine/tranny or their R&D and emissions certification can be rolled into battery purchase which is currently about the only expensive part of an electric car. I think companies should have spent less on transmissions so complex bitter rivals have to join forces, and worked on electric. Sort out the battery instead of just how many gears can you fit in a transmission. Just a few years later and they are all committing to rolling out electrics in volume in the next 5 year anyway.
All the updates are not really improving mileage that much either VVT/DOD, few extra gears are all small incremental improvements not big ones.
Yes there are other hassles with large scale electric car adaptation but all solvable and the often cited "grid" is actually not that big a deal as you just tell the car to charge at night when demand is low, granted we can't put everyone in electric tomorrow but charging at night means there is a LOT of grid capacity available today. My wife's 2014 Impala gets worse mileage than her 2003 and yes it is a bigger nicer car but it is also a LOT more complicated engine (3.6l DGI vs. the old 3.4l) with half again as many gears in the tranny.
I know what the published numbers are on motors but in driving feel don't buy it atall, I suspect the pcm may not actually let those numbers be reached real world torque management and all but EVERYONE I know familiar with the older smallblocks and LS1 agrees the gen 3 does not respond like the gen 1/2. Drive a TPI or gen 2 LT1 then and LS1 and you will understand.
All that said I am not an eco-freak but am a believer in electric, if you get a chance to drive one do it. As time goes on the cost savings of no complicated engine/tranny or their R&D and emissions certification can be rolled into battery purchase which is currently about the only expensive part of an electric car. I think companies should have spent less on transmissions so complex bitter rivals have to join forces, and worked on electric. Sort out the battery instead of just how many gears can you fit in a transmission. Just a few years later and they are all committing to rolling out electrics in volume in the next 5 year anyway.
All the updates are not really improving mileage that much either VVT/DOD, few extra gears are all small incremental improvements not big ones.
Yes there are other hassles with large scale electric car adaptation but all solvable and the often cited "grid" is actually not that big a deal as you just tell the car to charge at night when demand is low, granted we can't put everyone in electric tomorrow but charging at night means there is a LOT of grid capacity available today. My wife's 2014 Impala gets worse mileage than her 2003 and yes it is a bigger nicer car but it is also a LOT more complicated engine (3.6l DGI vs. the old 3.4l) with half again as many gears in the tranny.
