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2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition #4704782
03/23/18 10:32 PM
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Hey all, my car had some issues today..so wife was in car (car idling) while i was in store and she tells me she shut off car because it was idling funny. (Low idle) almost like it was going to stall. I restarted and sure enough low idle like it was going to stall out. After a few minutes it seemed normal so I drove off again. At drive thru to get my kid food and I noticed temp gauge was higher than normal. Checked under hood and only thing I noticed was coolant overflow was higher than usual...usually its halfway between low and full and it was showing just about at full line. No apparent leaks or anything and no codes thrown (no check engine light) as didnt have my scanner to check for codes. Had it towed to mechanics. Tried to read up a bit wondering what it could be (was thinking head gasket) so checked oil and it looked fine on dipstick, not muddy or abnormal. From what Ive researched Im thinking coolant temp sensor maybe but im not certain. Just curious if anyone has experienced this or if anyone has any ideas on what it could be. Mechanic is only in on Monday so im just curious what it might be. 155k miles. 1zzfe engine. Thoughts appreciated smile


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4704793
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When was the coolant/water pump/thermostat/radiator cap last replaced?


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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Nick1994] #4704807
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Originally Posted By: Nick1994
When was the coolant/water pump/thermostat/radiator cap last replaced?


To be honest, i am running a bit late on doing a coolant flush. Was last done in 2012...water pump - never replaced (never showed signs of a leak)- to this day still no leak. Thermostat- still original, rad cap- still original. Would one of these impact the idle also?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4704822
03/23/18 11:47 PM
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If it's a failing water pump, like a deteriorated impeller, reving the engine above idle for few minutes should bring the temp. down.
How is heat when that happens? Any fluctuations in the vent temp?


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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: KrisZ] #4704824
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Originally Posted By: KrisZ
If it's a failing water pump, like a deteriorated impeller, reving the engine above idle for few minutes should bring the temp. down.
How is heat when that happens? Any fluctuations in the vent temp?


To be honest i drove it for literally 1 minute to the drive thru..idling was normal at drive thru (strangely) but temp was going up quickly. No signs of overheating when car displayed low idle issues earlier.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4704840
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A water pump that has lost its fins to corrosion won't pump much water. A lazy thermostat can open late and make it run warmer. And a bad radiator cap won't hold pressure and can make it overheat.

Overheating can make the idle weird.

Sounds to me the entire cooling system needs a refresh just to start with.


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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4704895
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Are the electric fans coming on?


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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Trav] #4704898
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Are the electric fans coming on?
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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Trav] #4704959
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Are the electric fans coming on?


Not sure, but would that cause the low idle too?


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4704963
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Sure it would, an engine overheating will get tighter. Check the fans, I think you will find they are not coming on.


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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4704999
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All good advise!
It seem as though some maintenance is in order with a good flush through the heater core and possible a new T-Stat and/or water pump and even belt operation...and check the fan operation.


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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Trav] #4705000
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Sure it would, an engine overheating will get tighter. Check the fans, I think you will find they are not coming on.


Thank you sir smile


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4705013
03/24/18 07:45 AM
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Usually when the water goes bad on these engines it starts weeping coolant. I had mine replaced under warranty at the 60k mark. Just made it. I noticed the over flow tank was losing coolant, going from the full line to the min line in a few months.

Most recommend a simple drain and fill for the coolant on Toyotas fyi. A new radiator cap would be a cheap fix. Plus check the fans as mentioned. But would hold off on a new water pump for now. Next on list would be a new oem t-stat.

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Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: Rolla07] #4705072
03/24/18 08:50 AM
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A bad battery or alternator cn cause running and gauge weirdness.

Re: 2007 Corolla; low idle and overheat condition [Re: JamesBond] #4705078
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^ True, esp about the battery. Sometimes they even test ok but after replacement the issues disappear.

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