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repair or replace time? #4702845
03/22/18 08:39 AM
03/22/18 08:39 AM
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San Diego, CA
joaks Offline OP
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Hi all,

As of now it looks like my current ride ('97 subaru with 175k) has a head/head gasket issue. The shop that looked at the car isn't 100% sure if that is the problem, but after much googling I think this is correct. Repair will be about $2,500.

Considering the age of the car and the cost of repair it makes sense to replace. It looks like used car prices (assuming I don't want one as old as my current car) start at around 10k.

Here is the issue: I have only about 4k in liquid assets. So I can repair with no problem but if I want to purchase I have to either finance or borrow from my wife :-P . Credit is exceptional but really really don't want to owe more money (already have mortgage and student loans).

I'm looking for opinions to push me in one direction or the other. I will put it out there that my wife gets mad every time I pay for repairs of my car mad


2011 Subaru Legacy
Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702852
03/22/18 08:48 AM
03/22/18 08:48 AM
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Lakeside, CA
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Lakeside, CA
Get new Wife smile


99 Jeep WJ 4.7 190,000 Maxlife 10w30, Fram Ultra.
Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702853
03/22/18 08:48 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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The car is over twenty years old. Time to move on. You can buy a low mileage 2005 that someone's grandmother drove for $2500.


If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: repair or replace time? [Re: Snagglefoot] #4702858
03/22/18 08:50 AM
03/22/18 08:50 AM
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San Diego, CA
joaks Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Snagglefoot
The car is over twenty years old. Time to move on. You can buy a low mileage 2005 that someone's grandmother drove for $2500.



where??


2011 Subaru Legacy
Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702862
03/22/18 08:55 AM
03/22/18 08:55 AM
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missouri
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missouri
Look for Buick Lesabre, Lacroose, Chev Impala, ford crown vic, Lincoln Continental. Horrible resale, excellent cars.

Japan has too high resale.

Rod

Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702863
03/22/18 08:56 AM
03/22/18 08:56 AM
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Orlando, FL
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Orlando, FL
Replace.

You got your money's worth... time for a new vehicle.

Re: repair or replace time? [Re: Snagglefoot] #4702865
03/22/18 08:56 AM
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wv
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wv
Whoever priced you that that didnt want to do the job. (If thats even the problem).

Post an ad in craigslist or FB yard sale. Get a better estimate from a local subaru mechanic.

That is about a $500 to $750 job in someones home garage.

With those low of miles its not even broken in yet..and hasn't been driven much.

Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702885
03/22/18 09:14 AM
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Jacksonville, FL
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I agree with others, you should be able to get it repaired for half the current quote. Not sure if that influences your decision to repair or replace.


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Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702888
03/22/18 09:18 AM
03/22/18 09:18 AM
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A 4 cyl should not be that much to fix, it is not a $2500 fix.
After that, you will need to figure out why the headgasket failed.


  • 2017 Toyota Sienna
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Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702890
03/22/18 09:19 AM
03/22/18 09:19 AM
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Ceciltucky Maryland
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An old and experienced purchasing agent I worked with had several rules. The primary one was " Get 3 or 4 quotes " You can get this fixed for less than $2500.

As far as fixing vs new, I had the exact same situation with my wife's Mazda 626. The car was paid for and she loved it. We rebuilt the trans twice for about $1500 per time. Keeping the car going allowed us to get to a better place money wise.

Fix it and drive it.

Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702903
03/22/18 09:32 AM
03/22/18 09:32 AM
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MA, Mittelfranken.de
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The EJ 22 is super easy to do HG on, once the timing belt is off a few intake and exhaust bolts and they are off, you don't even need to pop the valve covers.
I would do it for $600 + parts and machining if necessary and make money and so would a lot of other guys, its cake. The whole job not more than $800 unless the head is cracked but those are cheap.


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Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702914
03/22/18 09:39 AM
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Try to find a subaru specialist. On some of the cars doing a headgasket means pulling the engine which may be leading to the crazy quote, but I think yours is old enough to have SOHC and enough clearance to do it in the car.
If no one want to do it and $2500 is still your best quote, you can get a new Versa for $9500... Put your $4k in and add the rest to the mortgage and your wife will only complain once for hopefully quite a few years!


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Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702923
03/22/18 09:45 AM
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Taiwan
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Daignose / fix it yourself. You KNOW its what a man would do.



Or let your wife plinth it.

Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702930
03/22/18 09:48 AM
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Again agree what others saying paying another mechanic to do the job for much much less. What is the body condition of the car?



Dale


2017 VW Jetta SE TSI 1.4L Turbo (hers)
M1 Euro 0W40 & FU (19K)
2008 Acura TL 3.2L PPPP 0W20 & FU (108K)
2005 Subaru Baja AWD 2.5L N/A 5spd.
QSHM 5W30 & FU (96K)
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Re: repair or replace time? [Re: joaks] #4702932
03/22/18 09:48 AM
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Agree with the repair estimate being high.

Subarus do have head gasket issues in (approximately) that year.

I'd lean towards fixing it - this one last time (and tell the wife that) - then driving until the liquid budget allows a replacement. Then just wait for another large repair, and sell the Subaru while picking up the new vehicle.


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