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Tire wear - is this usual? #4702266
03/21/18 05:38 PM
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p265/75/16 Firestone Destination LE2.

First rotation @ 5000 miles - still 12/32"

Second rotation @ 8000 miles - down between 8-9/32"

I guess what I am trying to ascertain is will a typical tire wear quickly, then level off? Else, these Firestone tires aren't going to get close to 60k. Realistically, I was hoping for 40k.

Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702274
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12/32"? I've never seen a tire start out with higher than 11/32".. and most start out between 10/ and 10.5/32" in my experience. You sure that first measurement wasn't off?


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702291
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Did you measure this? If the tire shop did the rotation they might have eyeballed it.

Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702292
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12/32", according to Firestone's webpage for the LE2 in that size.


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702302
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What vehicle what axle was measured?
Did you measure in multiple places each time?


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702317
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I have always felt that as a tyre gets towards the legal limit (1.6mm in the UK) that wear slows down slightly.

I have no proof and it is merely an anecdotal observation.


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: SirTanon] #4702358
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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
12/32"? I've never seen a tire start out with higher than 11/32".. and most start out between 10/ and 10.5/32" in my experience. You sure that first measurement wasn't off?


It depends on the tread.

My new 265/70-17 All-Terrain tires start at 14/32"


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702430
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Wear (and friction losses) definitely drop with higher mileage, especially on heavier duty LT tires-but unfortunately off-road, rain, & snow performance drop too. If the wear is even on all four corners, it might be related to the kind of driving you do. I do a lot of curvy back roads for work, I routinely only get half the mileage out of a set of tires as my interstate straight line co-workers do.


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702572
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Ditto on 1/2 worn tires. I had a set of Coopers that did fine on dry pavement but was dangerous on heavy dew.


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702803
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Originally Posted By: mjk
p265/75/16 Firestone Destination LE2.

First rotation @ 5000 miles - still 12/32"

Second rotation @ 8000 miles - down between 8-9/32"

I guess what I am trying to ascertain is will a typical tire wear quickly, then level off? Else, these Firestone tires aren't going to get close to 60k. Realistically, I was hoping for 40k.


As others have said, I suspect these are shop measurements and I wouldn't take them too seriously as accurate.

But it is possible that the usage is what is causing the rapid wear. Most tire wear occurs in the cornering mode. So if you are making a lot of short trips or live in the city, your tires just aren't going to wear well. Hard driving will do that as well.


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4702878
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Thank you CapriRacer. Yes, the Tahoe saw a lot of city driving (Minneapolis) during that time frame. I am using it now mostly on weekends, and it is mostly highway miles.

Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: SirTanon] #4702901
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Originally Posted By: SirTanon
12/32"? I've never seen a tire start out with higher than 11/32".. and most start out between 10/ and 10.5/32" in my experience. You sure that first measurement wasn't off?


Haven't used a lot of truck tires then, have you? One of the last sets of tires I bought for my old F150 started at 17/32". As was posted, Firestone says 12 from the factory...

Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: eljefino] #4702907
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Originally Posted By: eljefino
Did you measure this? If the tire shop did the rotation they might have eyeballed it.


This. We have this problem at work ALL the time. Unless you measured it yourself, and always with the same tread depth gauge, the actual numbers may be considerable different.

We had one tech who had a depth gauge that was a full 3/32" off, and another tech just eye balls it.

I would take those measurements with a HUGE grain of salt.

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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4703092
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Originally Posted By: mjk
p265/75/16 Firestone Destination LE2.

First rotation @ 5000 miles - still 12/32"

Second rotation @ 8000 miles - down between 8-9/32"

I guess what I am trying to ascertain is will a typical tire wear quickly, then level off? Else, these Firestone tires aren't going to get close to 60k. Realistically, I was hoping for 40k.


Yes, tires tend to wear at a quicker rate when new and will level off. A 4/32nds difference in 3000 miles is way too much, though.


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Re: Tire wear - is this usual? [Re: mjk] #4703194
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You, the driver are the biggest factor in a tires life. Proper maintenance and gentle driving will pay dividends.

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