Recent Topics
When you're too old to drive
by Speak2Mountain. 09/19/18 09:22 AM
Another VW Thread
by Zee09. 09/19/18 09:21 AM
Tremec HP MTF - No more ATF?
by ABomb369. 09/19/18 09:02 AM
Is 0W weight oil the perfect oil?
by Baas95. 09/19/18 08:01 AM
2014 Durango ZF8 transmission fluid recommendation
by MoparMan12. 09/19/18 06:45 AM
Does Rear Heater Need to be On?
by Gebo. 09/19/18 05:04 AM
125 years.
by Silk. 09/19/18 12:38 AM
How a VW DSG Transmission works
by StevieC. 09/18/18 10:42 PM
Full Synthetic vs HM Full Synthetic
by SierraMan. 09/18/18 10:06 PM
Champion AGM batteries
by bbhero. 09/18/18 08:53 PM
General opinion about Cooper CS5 Ultra?
by dan_erickson. 09/18/18 08:37 PM
Rotella Online Rebate
by PumpPusher. 09/18/18 08:13 PM
Audi A4 vs Volkswagen CC...or good old Passat?
by KCJeep. 09/18/18 07:19 PM
GM 454 engine
by dirtymudder. 09/18/18 07:13 PM
High Performance Motorcycle oil...which one?
by Neiz15. 09/18/18 06:50 PM
Need help High Performance Motorcycle oil?
by Neiz15. 09/18/18 06:38 PM
MC FL-500S CUT OPEN
by 53' Stude. 09/18/18 05:15 PM
Newest Members
vortex64, 19074, Redright9, Clif67, scotstr
66011 Registered Users
Who's Online Now
96 registered members (28oz, 64bawagon, ABomb369, Aero540T, AandPDan, advocate, 10 invisible), 1,180 guests, and 45 spiders.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums67
Topics290,632
Posts4,847,745
Members66,011
Most Online3,590
Jan 24th, 2017
Donate to BITOG
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
My ATF never gets Hot? #4702148
03/21/18 03:59 PM
03/21/18 03:59 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Without mentioning any names, I have noticed my ATF NEVER gets hot. I pulled a lawnmower on a trailer for 2 hours on the interstate and my ATF was barely warm. I know that's good. BUT...

How do I determine proper fluid level? This vehicle has a dipstick so I can check it. Do I keep it between the "COLD" hashmarks or do I add up to the "HOT" hashmarks? I ain't making this up. As soon as I got back home from the haul, I kept 4Runner running, shifted through all the gears, pulled the dipstick out, wiped it off, reinserted and the reading is slightly above the upper "COLD" marks but no where near the "HOT" range.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702153
03/21/18 04:01 PM
03/21/18 04:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,032
Columbus Nebraska
old1 Online content
old1  Online Content
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,032
Columbus Nebraska
But is the OIL hot?


2017 Nissan Frontier 4.0 5w30
1965 Mustang 200 c/4 10w30 QS defy
1964 Ford Ranchero 302 c/4 15/40 Delo
1929 ford model A No filters, and 15/40 oil
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702157
03/21/18 04:03 PM
03/21/18 04:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,245
NJ
Leo99 Offline
Leo99  Offline
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 3,245
NJ
Do you think it's not at the correct fill level? I'd fill it to the cold line when it's cold (around 65F).


Without data you're just another person with an opinion. W. E. Deming

2003 Corolla 250,000 miles
2004 Rav4 359,000 miles
2015 Camry 59,000 miles
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702159
03/21/18 04:04 PM
03/21/18 04:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 552
Anaheim, CA
zorobabel Offline
zorobabel  Offline
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 552
Anaheim, CA
Are you determining the "hotness" of the ATF by the fluid level on the dipstick?


1997 Maxima 181k, Edge 10w30, K&N HP-1003
2004 Corolla 191k, VWB 5w20 + SSS 10w40, MGL4967
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702171
03/21/18 04:13 PM
03/21/18 04:13 PM
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,734
New York
pbm Offline
pbm  Offline
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 7,734
New York
It sounds like you need to add a little ATF...unless I'm reading your post wrong?
You need to check your ATF temp.


'Journalism is Dead'
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702174
03/21/18 04:14 PM
03/21/18 04:14 PM
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,898
MA, Mittelfranken.de
Trav Offline
Trav  Offline
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 19,898
MA, Mittelfranken.de
What is the temp of the fluid?


ASE L1, Master. Deutsch Meisterbrief.
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702257
03/21/18 05:29 PM
03/21/18 05:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 253
Cleveland, OH
silveravant Offline
silveravant  Offline
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 253
Cleveland, OH
What does your owner's manual say? The answer to many questions.

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Trav] #4702298
03/21/18 06:09 PM
03/21/18 06:09 PM
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,416
NY
demarpaint Offline
demarpaint  Offline
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 30,416
NY
Originally Posted By: Trav
What is the temp of the fluid?


Good question. OP-How did you determine the transmission fluid temperature? The fluid level changes with the temperature. I have a chart with temperatures and a special dipstick for both my Jeeps to determine the correct level based on temperature. As the fluid gets hotter the level moves higher. As long as the level corresponds with the temperature on the chart the level is correct. Without knowing the correct temperature of the ATF the level cannot be accurately set.


God Bless Our Troops

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: demarpaint] #4702362
03/21/18 07:06 PM
03/21/18 07:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 6,226
Waco, TX
Linctex Offline
Linctex  Offline
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 6,226
Waco, TX
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Without knowing the correct temperature of the ATF - the level cannot be accurately set.


Yes, you cannot put the cart before the horse.

Oh, BTW... as long as you are "somewhere around there" on your fluid level, you are fine.

Don't get obsessed about your oil level being ~4mm off (up or down) or something silly like that.


"The evidence demands a verdict".
(Re:VOA)"it's nearly impossible to actually know the particular additives that are in there at what concentrations."
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: zorobabel] #4702398
03/21/18 07:40 PM
03/21/18 07:40 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Originally Posted By: zorobabel
Are you determining the "hotness" of the ATF by the fluid level on the dipstick?


By how the fluid feels on my fingers while touching the dip stick


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Trav] #4702402
03/21/18 07:42 PM
03/21/18 07:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Originally Posted By: Trav
What is the temp of the fluid?


I was just going by feel and comparing it to how my water feels at 130 degrees coming out of my spigot at home. Maybe I should infrared it?


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: silveravant] #4702406
03/21/18 07:42 PM
03/21/18 07:42 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Originally Posted By: silveravant
What does your owner's manual say? The answer to many questions.


You aren't understanding my question. Owner's manual can't answer this question.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: demarpaint] #4702410
03/21/18 07:44 PM
03/21/18 07:44 PM
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Gebo Offline OP
Gebo  Offline OP
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,257
VA
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Originally Posted By: Trav
What is the temp of the fluid?


Good question. OP-How did you determine the transmission fluid temperature? The fluid level changes with the temperature. I have a chart with temperatures and a special dipstick for both my Jeeps to determine the correct level based on temperature. As the fluid gets hotter the level moves higher. As long as the level corresponds with the temperature on the chart the level is correct. Without knowing the correct temperature of the ATF the level cannot be accurately set.


I was just going by feel as compared to my house hot water at 130. The fluid feels barely warm. I have touched other hot dipsticks (be nice grin) and the fluid was so hot it would burn my fingers. Maybe time for the infrared.


'98 LEX LS400 280K
'00 LEX GS300 195K
'02 4Runner 225K
'05 Lex LS430 85K
'06 Toyota Highlander 145K
'09 Lex IS350 85K
'07 Lex GX470 58K

Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702555
03/21/18 09:55 PM
03/21/18 09:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 394
Massachusetts
VeryNoisyPoet Offline
VeryNoisyPoet  Offline
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 394
Massachusetts
I installed a temp gauge out of curiosity on my car. If I'm on the highway with torque converter locked, my ATF will barely get up to 130F in the winter even when hauling a full load for nearly an hour, and that's with a coolant to ATF heat exchanger in the radiator end tank.

If you want to get it really warm, drive around town such that the torque converter is working harder, since that is where most of the heat is generated in an automatic.


1998 V70 GLT / 192k miles [10w-30 Valvoline Syn w/ Maxlife Tech + Mann W917 filter]

"Use yah blinkah!"

"Be nice. The alternative involves an air horn and 7000 lumens of high beam."
Re: My ATF never gets Hot? [Re: Gebo] #4702579
03/21/18 10:24 PM
03/21/18 10:24 PM
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 683
South Carolina
eyeofthetiger Offline
eyeofthetiger  Offline
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 683
South Carolina
Your transmission will last forever. I don't see the problem.


2017 Ford Fiesta 1.0T - Valvoline SynPower 5W-20, Motorcraft FL910S
1988 GMC K1500 4.3/700R4 - Supertech 15W-40, Fram TG3980
1986 Ford Ranger 2.0 - uhh
Page 1 of 2 1 2

BOB IS THE OIL GUY® Powered by UBB.threads™