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2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices #4701942
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Howdy All,
This is my first post be gentle~
I am planning to do oil change on my 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6(VW V6). My question/concern is, there are "Porsche approved" oil- C30 or VW 504. They are hard to find and just simply confusing to find...

Has anyone NOT using the "factory approved" oil especially on these German cars for long term?

What brand & viscosity are you using? Porsche either recommends 0W-40 or 5W-30... Wonder if 0W-30 will work?

How does off-shelf oil working for you? Any difference?

Thanks in advance for all your comments~

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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4701978
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Walmart- 5qt. jug of Castrol 0w-40.


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'89 Jeep Comanche 4.0 278k - GC 0w-30, Bosch LongLife filter
Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4701986
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Looks like it takes 7.3 qts per the Amsoil look up and 5w30 is fine to use. Not sure which oils meet spec so others can chime in on that.

https://www.amsoil.com/lookup/auto-and-l...02-a/us-volume/

Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4702048
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Doesn't Porsche recommend M1?


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4702063
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A 502/A40 will work just fine.


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: tig1] #4702065
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Originally Posted By: tig1
Doesn't Porsche recommend M1?

Maybe, and if they do it would be Mobil 1 ESP 5W-30 for Porsche C30 and Mobil 1 0W-40 for A40.

Is the only difference the SAPS between the two? If so, I can't see how a full-SAPS oil such as the 0W-40 would be harmful in a VR6 engine. It sure is a lot easier to find the A40 approved 0W-40 than going to NAPA or some other place for the C30 ESP.

https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/topics/4381794/Porsche_Cayenne_VR6_(VW)_Why_u

Originally Posted By: csufl
What brand & viscosity are you using? Porsche either recommends 0W-40 or 5W-30... Wonder if 0W-30 will work?

Ignore the brand or grade and focus on the approval. If you decide on an A40 oil the Castrol product is entirely equivalent, as is any other A40 oil.


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4702067
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You can find the right M1 product from this at XM.
https://mobiloil.com/en/article/why-the-...recommended-oil


2007 Ford Fusion 236,000 miles
M1 0-20 EP
2017 Ford Fusion 62K
M1 0-20 EP
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M1 ATF and Valvoline LV
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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4702091
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Castrol Edge 0W40 ALL THE WAY!!!


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: kschachn] #4702119
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Kschachn has great advice here. Spot on.


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: BAJA_05] #4702150
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Originally Posted By: umungus1122
Walmart- 5qt. jug of Castrol 0w-40.


Originally Posted By: BAJA_05
Castrol Edge 0W40 ALL THE WAY!!!


Wrong. EDGE 0W-40 is A40 (ACEA A3/B4), not C30 (ACEA C3).


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4702155
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: umungus1122
Walmart- 5qt. jug of Castrol 0w-40.


Originally Posted By: BAJA_05
Castrol Edge 0W40 ALL THE WAY!!!


Wrong. EDGE 0W-40 is A40 (ACEA A3/B4), not C30 (ACEA C3).


Yes, and he is suggesting NOT following the C30 rating. I would be putting in Castrol 0W40 as well.


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4702156
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: umungus1122
Walmart- 5qt. jug of Castrol 0w-40.

Originally Posted By: BAJA_05
Castrol Edge 0W40 ALL THE WAY!!!

Wrong. EDGE 0W-40 is A40 (ACEA A3/B4), not C30 (ACEA C3).

I can't think of a single reason to run a C3 oil over an A3/B4 in a gasoline vehicle.


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: rooflessVW] #4702170
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Originally Posted By: mightymousetech
Yes, and he is suggesting NOT following the C30 rating. I would be putting in Castrol 0W40 as well.


Originally Posted By: rooflessVW
I can't think of a single reason to run a C3 oil over an A3/B4 in a gasoline vehicle.


I misread the OP. In that case, I agree. EDGE or M1 0W-40.


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4702177
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PP Euro LX 0w30. Porsche C30 and VW 504/507. Just got some at AA for a VW $27 for 5qt on sale and 30% off a Mann filter.

http://www.pennzoil.com/en_us/products/f...c_Motor_Oil.pdf


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Re: 2012 Porsche Cayenne 3.6 V6 Oil Choices [Re: csufl] #4702325
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If you get lucky you might still be able to find a jug + a few quarts of the A40-approved Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40 on clearance at Walmart for $13 for the 5-qt jug, $3.50 for the individual quarts. And if you subtract the $2/qt Pennzoil rebate (up to 10 quarts) you would have a sub-$20 oil change!

Pennzoil Platinum Euro 0W-40

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