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One oil for all cars and driving conditions #4701630
03/21/18 09:12 AM
03/21/18 09:12 AM
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Oldtom Offline OP
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I have three vehicles with widely different driving conditions. I want to start using inexpensive Walmart synthetic to simplify my life, save money and because I HATE chasing rebates. The Super Tech 5w 30 full syn is now rated Dexos 1 Gen 2

The vehicles are ..........

2012 Chevy Cruze - 6000 miles per year. Non turbo, mostly used for longer trips of 15 miles or so. Plan to change oil and filter every year. So far, the OLM shows 50% remaining at one year. 35k miles at present.

1998 Toyota Tacoma - Extreme short tripper. 4000 miles per year. Used for 2 mile a day trips to work. Gets a once a month trip of 20 miles to the landfill. Plan to change oil every six months and the filter yearly. 216K miles at present.

2003 Dodge Caravan - 3.3 V6 - 6000 miles per year. This is the most abusive service IMO. Used for short tripping and trailer towing. The van is driven 2 miles to work for months on end then used to haul a trailer down a highway or up a mountain. The 3.3 V6 is a known sludge engine. Plan to change oil every six months and the filter yearly. 135K miles at present.

Oil filters will probably be Fram Ultra. Available at Walmart with the oil.

What do you folks think of my scheme? Thanks in advance for any advice.

Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701638
03/21/18 09:16 AM
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5w30 should suit you well. The only tweak I'd make is to not use a FU on the Caravan. Given the OCI and length of service, a TG, EG or the new Super Tech filter will be more than sufficient. This will save you a few pennies.


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+2.0l turbo - 8k - PP Euro LX 0w30 - Mopar - 10k/1yr
16.5 CX-5 Touring AWD
+2.5l - 54k - Citgo Supergard Syn 5w30 - Denso - 8k/1yr
Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701642
03/21/18 09:18 AM
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Do you plan to re-use the filters? Based on what your plan is, the oil choice seems absolutely fine. You arent running long intervals. I wouldnt spend so much on Fram Ultras unless you plan to use them twice or more. Personally for single use Id go with a Napa Proselect for 3$ each. I have had great results with them. Or see if you can buy OEMs. Just grab enough filters for 2 yrs of changes. Dont think the ultra is worth the cost for low mileage intervals.


2007 Corolla Red Pearl 155k miles
PP 0w20 & ST 4967

Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701663
03/21/18 09:32 AM
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My choice would be Mobil1 0w40 for all vehicles. As far as filters: Fram Ultra for two OCIs on the Cruze and Tacoma, and one OCI on SuperTech oil filter for the Caravan.

Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701667
03/21/18 09:34 AM
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I'm a 10W30 fan myself-if you have a farm store that carries it, the Mystik JT-8 in a 5 gallon pail is hard to beat for the price. Although the Cruze would probably like a 5W30 better.


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Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701669
03/21/18 09:36 AM
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Fram Ultra is not available for the Cruze, you can use the cartridge TG10246 Fram, good choice, Walmart.
Good plan, except choose the Supertech High Mileage version for the 2 older vehicles to make sure the seals stay flexible and don't begin leaking.
Also, Castrol Magnatec 5w30 is available for the Cruze for about the same cost as the SupertTech full syn you mentioned; I'd probably use the Magnatec (again, in Walmart for cheep).

Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701675
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Sounds like a great plan.


I use the overseas owner's manual to choose my oil.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 143k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 51k, OE 5w30/Wix

Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701681
03/21/18 09:47 AM
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Nothing wrong with the oil choice, I can see that working well in all three but for the use the FU is overkill. The Supertech filter should work well enough for this use.


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Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Trav] #4701830
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Nothing wrong with the oil choice, I can see that working well in all three but for the use the FU is overkill. The Supertech filter should work well enough for this use.


I think OP is trying to replace filters less often...[retracted]...after a re-read it seems the plan is annual.

Last edited by JLTD; 03/21/18 11:48 AM.

I use the overseas owner's manual to choose my oil.

Using AMSOIL

Hers: 2008 Jeep Liberty 143k, SS 5w30/Amsoil

His: 2015 4Runner 51k, OE 5w30/Wix

Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701857
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Quote:
2003 Dodge Caravan - 3.3 V6 - 6000 miles per year. This is the most abusive service IMO. Used for short tripping and trailer towing. The van is driven 2 miles to work for months on end then used to haul a trailer down a highway or up a mountain. The 3.3 V6 is a known sludge engine. Plan to change oil every six months and the filter yearly. 135K miles at present.

Where did you get that idea?? The 3.3/3.8 is not a sludge engine. I have 3 3.3's and a 3.8, all over 200k miles. Absolutely no sludge in any of them, I know because I have changed the VC gaskets on them. You might be thinking of the ill fated 2.7 engine. Early ones did have a sludge issue, something to do with the water pump.


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Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701910
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ST Syn 5W30 sounds good to me!


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Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldmoparguy1] #4701967
03/21/18 01:32 PM
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oldmoparguy1, thanks for your input. I read this engine is considered a " sludger " on a Dodge Caravan forum. I did try running Mobil 1 EP and a Mobil 1 filter for one year and 6000 miles, short tripping and trailer towing. At the end of the year, the drained oil appeared thick and opaque, looking for all the world like black paint. I know looking at the oil is no substitute for a UOA, but, I have never seen oil look that bad.

My rationale for 6 month oil changes on short trippers is to use a cheaper oil and dump the impurities, water, and maybe fuel contamination earlier.

Last edited by Oldtom; 03/21/18 01:35 PM.
Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4701973
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Synthetic 10W30 LOL


There's no replacement...'scosity for natural viscosity
Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4702099
03/21/18 03:28 PM
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Around here all you need is a 10w30.
If I lived where you do, I'd just use M1 0w40. 0 winter, medium weight, long drain capable, under 5 bucks a qt at Costco several times per year.


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30, XG8
07 IS250 106K STP syn HM 10w30, FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40, XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 21K VR1 20w50, NG1515
14 RX450h 40k Idemitsu 0w20, 57047
Re: One oil for all cars and driving conditions [Re: Oldtom] #4702102
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I would use your oil choice and SuperTech filters and change the oil and filter once per year on all vehicles. That was easy


1994 Jeep 162k Castrol Synblend 10w30
2014 Camry 38k Havoline 5w20
2018 Jeep Cherokee 5k FactFill
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