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Synthetic cold flow test #4701399
03/21/18 01:25 AM
03/21/18 01:25 AM
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Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
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Cold flow test


Sorry if itís a re-post but one of the better cold flow test I have seen


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701401
03/21/18 01:32 AM
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New to me test. What the frick with Royal Purple. You would think it would be better


Always Mobil 1
2014 1.6L Nissan Versa Sedan, 5 spd, 5k OCI.
2011 3.5L Chevrolet Impala, Automatic, 5k OCI.
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701403
03/21/18 01:38 AM
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Texas
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Appears they would all start, pump, and lubricate on that day in history ~ guy did lots of work and spent lots of money too.

Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701431
03/21/18 04:02 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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Thanks for posting. Very consistent results. I was glad to see Motomaster Formula 1 did well. (Itís the house oil for Canadian Tire). I recall Royal Purple doing worse than Mobil 1 at the colder temps as well. Anyway, looks like the film director has enough oil for a few years!

PS. What can you do with 9 plastic funnels?

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 03/21/18 04:05 AM.

If you want the job done right......do it yourself.
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701449
03/21/18 04:47 AM
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Not exactly cold, but the winner was PU. Maybe they can use it for an advertisement........ wink lol


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Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: demarpaint] #4701452
03/21/18 04:53 AM
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SE British Columbia, Canada
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Originally Posted By: demarpaint
Not exactly cold, but the winner was PU. Maybe they can use it for an advertisement........ wink lol


Yeah, piece of cake for 5w30, but fairly realistic judging from this past winter.


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Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701459
03/21/18 05:20 AM
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Synthetic cold "pour" test. smile
Nice set-up.


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Next: QSUD 5/30 + TG9688

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Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: wemay] #4701461
03/21/18 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted By: wemay
Synthetic cold "pour" test.


It's immensely better than the cold "glug glug" test that we usually see. at 5C lower than the MRV rating.

But alas...they are all equal at -20C in the above vid.

I DO like the guy's set-up

Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701467
03/21/18 05:33 AM
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Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
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whistle


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701482
03/21/18 05:51 AM
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out there
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Neat setup, i agree with one of he comments posted on the video page. It would be interesting to see the same oils repeated with 2-3000 miles on them.


13 elantra 72k 5w30 QSUD
03 chevy avalanche 80k synpwr 5w30
17 mazda cx-5 7300 miles m1 0w30
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: FermeLaPorte] #4701503
03/21/18 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted By: FermeLaPorte
New to me test. What the frick with Royal Purple. You would think it would be better


Wouldn't it be funny if it was actually the purple dye that made it thicker at cold temps??
;^)

These test results are getting old now, but RP 5W30 had one of the highest CCS (-30C) viscosities in the PQIA's testing of 5W30 synths in 2013...almost 40% higher than M1, QSUD, and the two Pennzoils they looked at. RP still met the CCS requirement for the grade quite handily, though.
Of the oils that were tested in the video that I am familiar with, Amsoil SS 5W30 has the lowest CCS viscosity at -30C. Not surprised that the Castrol varieties were a tad slower than most of the others as their 5W30s that I have been able to find info for seemed to have CCS viscosities up closer to the spec limit like RP.
I'm sure any of these would probably do me just fine, but I like the idea of lower CCS viscosities as a skier who parks overnight on some cold nights in the White Mountains and gets going when it is still dark and cold out...I will give M1 0W30 AFE a try this winter assuming I can actually find a jug with the d1G2 logo on it by then.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/Marchsyntheticsallfinal.html

Last edited by Virtus_Probi; 03/21/18 06:09 AM.

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Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701519
03/21/18 06:32 AM
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Thank you so much for doing the test Brolly. Ed


CX5 Touring 2.5L :-)
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701523
03/21/18 06:34 AM
03/21/18 06:34 AM
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Waterloo, ON
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Not sure these oil slump tests prove anything....5W30 oils can vary a lot in cst thickness As someone else mentioned, what about shear down over time?


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2006 Pathfinder 4X4
1991 BMW 735iL
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Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Eddie] #4701525
03/21/18 06:35 AM
03/21/18 06:35 AM
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Oklahoma
Brolly Offline OP
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I can not take credit for the test. Just found it on YouTube.


1999 Toyota Camry CE 2.2L
PPHM or PP or PPU
5w-30
226,344

2018 Accord 2.0T Touring
10spd
0w-20 Castrol Edge Honda Filter
Re: Synthetic cold flow test [Re: Brolly] #4701540
03/21/18 06:48 AM
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Texas
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This combined with a stop watch would be better, cheaper, and use actual (recorded) seconds to move 1 quart Ö
(Database or spreadsheet)

Or if cold pumping really matters ~ run 0w and check the MRV of that product Ö


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