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#4697790 - 03/17/18 05:31 PM Car salesmen......Talk to me!!!
renegade_987 Offline


Registered: 04/07/11
Posts: 1563
Loc: Ankeny, IA
Okay, I'll try to make this short. Currently I am in wireless sales, have been for about 3 years total. I consider myself to be pretty good, almost always #1 or #2 at my location, very rarely miss goals and make very good money (Some in my company are surpassing $60K). My question for any car salesmen in the group is, why shouldn't I do it? Don't get me wrong, the commission only part of it scares me. I have a pretty decent base salary currently, which is nice in slow months. I was at my local Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep dealer today which really got me thinking about it, just in the fact that I heard at least 4 sales closed in the hour that I was there. Obviously, being in sales, I know thats not always the case. But i wanna really hear what people do and dont like about it. And honestly, if anyone can give me somewhat of a range of what new car dealerships are paying (average), that'd be great. Thanks!
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#4697800 - 03/17/18 05:55 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
64bawagon Offline


Registered: 01/10/17
Posts: 169
Loc: Michigan
I do know that GM just cut commission amounts on new cars.
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#4697809 - 03/17/18 06:04 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 30028
Loc: NY
I did it for a few years and was quite good at it. Be prepared to work long hours, weekends, and giving up a day off at the end of the month if you work in a high volume dealership and your boss is a [censored]. Keep good records because the more money you make the more likely they're going to try and screw you with packs, burns, bruises charge backs, etc. Those were a few of the reasons I left and returned to my business, there are more. I enjoyed selling cars, it was the [censored] associated with it that made me leave. Maybe in your neck of the woods it's different.


Edited by demarpaint (03/17/18 06:07 PM)
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#4697811 - 03/17/18 06:06 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
Lolvoguy Offline


Registered: 02/06/14
Posts: 2394
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: renegade_987
just in the fact that I heard at least 4 sales closed in the hour that I was there. Obviously, being in sales, I know thats not always the case.


You cannot expect what you see and hear on a Saturday (busiest day of the week) to be indicative of the rest of the week. Those 4 sales were probably among 4 different sales people of a sales staff of about 20 people. Also, you need to consider that when your new, your working hard for customers. All the internet sales, sales calls etc, will go to the more experienced staff (it's how they keep their best staff happy). Then there's a lot of days you'll spend countless hours at the dealership hoping for a customer to keep their appointment, the constant sales games between the customer and the sales manager....the list goes on and on.

For some people it's great. It fits their lifestyle and it works for them. I personally would not want people calling me to rush into the dealership on a "day off" just because my customer has shown up unannounced to do a deal.

Overall it's like running your own business (and the dealership will charge your commissions accordingly for business cards, overhead expenses etc). If you don't place much value on spending time with family, friends and hobbies (like changing your own oil, lol)this could be a very rewarding career thumbsup
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#4697826 - 03/17/18 06:17 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
Number_35 Offline


Registered: 07/07/14
Posts: 841
Loc: Winnipeg MB CA
I'm not a salesman, would have absolutely no aptitude for it, but enjoyed this inside look very much:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/513/129-cars

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#4697835 - 03/17/18 06:27 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: Number_35]
mva Offline


Registered: 02/09/08
Posts: 764
Loc: Northern BC, Canada
How about selling real estate?
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#4697844 - 03/17/18 06:32 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
clarkflower Offline


Registered: 12/27/11
Posts: 743
Loc: US
Boy it gets frustrating. Its almost impossible to get paid fair anymore. I used to make 750 a car average when they paid in real numbers. Later worked for a big Capitol Ford dealer. Sold 18 cars...made 3600 (month) No profit on any car...even used cars sold at the highest book NADA Retail...
If you can't make a profit at NADA retail....

I worked at Allen Cadillac in Laguna. The surfing cars dealers...Think its different... LOL
Sold a few year old Elantra with 60k on it...right off the truck from Enterprise (no shop fees) for 15,999. It was a 7000 auction car. Got 200. Told we didn't make a profit.
I was livid and said here is the ad from the dealer down the road asking 11900. Perhaps we need to buy our inventory from him retail so we can make a profit...
Took in a 40k 10 year old buick from an old lady for 500. Asked 4500. Many of us wanted it. It didn't sell. They auctioned it.

Its a corrupt business. You could make a RICO Case... Changing numbers to defraud salesman of commission.

That said you can make 3600 a month. You just have to be there 75 hours. Beats being up on a roof banging nails in 100 degree heat...for me



Edited by clarkflower (03/17/18 06:42 PM)

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#4697853 - 03/17/18 06:39 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: demarpaint]
clarkflower Offline


Registered: 12/27/11
Posts: 743
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I did it for a few years and was quite good at it. Be prepared to work long hours, weekends, and giving up a day off at the end of the month if you work in a high volume dealership and your boss is a [censored]. Keep good records because the more money you make the more likely they're going to try and screw you with packs, burns, bruises charge backs, etc. Those were a few of the reasons I left and returned to my business, there are more. I enjoyed selling cars, it was the [censored] associated with it that made me leave. Maybe in your neck of the woods it's different.



Exactly. Shop fees on the used cars. At Capitol we had the 600 dollar oil change and they would move cars around the 30 odd lots..each adding a 700 pack...which was why even at NADA retail...its a no profit deal...LOL

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#4697856 - 03/17/18 06:41 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: clarkflower]
demarpaint Offline


Registered: 07/03/05
Posts: 30028
Loc: NY
Originally Posted By: clarkflower
Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I did it for a few years and was quite good at it. Be prepared to work long hours, weekends, and giving up a day off at the end of the month if you work in a high volume dealership and your boss is a [censored]. Keep good records because the more money you make the more likely they're going to try and screw you with packs, burns, bruises charge backs, etc. Those were a few of the reasons I left and returned to my business, there are more. I enjoyed selling cars, it was the [censored] associated with it that made me leave. Maybe in your neck of the woods it's different.



Exactly. Shop fees on the used cars. At Capitol we had the 600 dollar oil change and they would move cars around the 30 odd lots..each adding a 700 pack...which was why even at NADA retail...its a no profit deal...LOL


LOL I could write a book.
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#4697863 - 03/17/18 06:48 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
bubbatime Offline


Registered: 03/18/08
Posts: 5723
Loc: South Florida
Why work for the sake of working? Every car sales guy I have ever known worked Monday through Saturday 80 hours a week. And for what? To meet some impossible sales goal for some rich guys? DO anything else. Seriously.
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#4697888 - 03/17/18 07:03 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: Number_35]
simple_gifts Offline


Registered: 07/26/04
Posts: 11995
Loc: Middlesex County CT
Originally Posted By: Number_35
I'm not a salesman, would have absolutely no aptitude for it, but enjoyed this inside look very much:

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/513/129-cars


Yah, I actually posted this link years ago; a real insiders view into that career; great listen.
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#4697920 - 03/17/18 07:25 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: bubbatime]
clarkflower Offline


Registered: 12/27/11
Posts: 743
Loc: US
Originally Posted By: bubbatime
Why work for the sake of working? Every car sales guy I have ever known worked Monday through Saturday 80 hours a week. And for what? To meet some impossible sales goal for some rich guys? DO anything else. Seriously.


Because as I said in my post you can still make 700- 800 bucks a week in air conditioning
You can’t do that at Walmart or McDonald’s.

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#4697929 - 03/17/18 07:31 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
Linctex Offline


Registered: 12/31/16
Posts: 6186
Loc: Waco, TX
I HATE HATE HATE sales jobs (especially cars)

There are ALWAYS way too many other sales folks to compete against...


Originally Posted By: demarpaint
I did it for a few years and was quite good at it. Be prepared to work long hours, weekends, and giving up a day off at the end of the month if you work in a high volume dealership and your boss is a [censored]. Keep good records because the more money you make the more likely they're going to try and screw you with packs, burns, bruises charge backs, etc.


Reminds me of:

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#4697933 - 03/17/18 07:37 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
97prizm Offline


Registered: 05/25/05
Posts: 752
Loc: USA
I worked in sales for vw and Lexus Ang am GLAD I go t out. Long days dealers don't trust customers and vise versa. Every month the"deals" or perks change. It takes two to three years of starving wages to get a customer base. I was told by seasoned sales people that carmax is a great place to start.
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#4697960 - 03/17/18 08:01 PM Re: Car salesmen......Talk to me!!! [Re: renegade_987]
Mr Nice Offline


Registered: 09/12/04
Posts: 21366
Loc: Orlando, FL
Some people have the personality to be in sales, I don't.

For me it's less stressful to have a guaranteed income plus OT when I want to work it, meeting difficult sales goals is something I could never do. Taking time off could end up in lost sales.

No thanks.

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