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To change or not to change? #4697080
03/16/18 08:42 PM
03/16/18 08:42 PM
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Crown Point, IN
dan_erickson Offline OP
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My girlfriends new 17 Civic is approaching 5,000 miles on the factory fill oil but the oil life still reads 60%. I know Honda says to leave the factory fill in until the car tells you to change the oil and I am sure most people do. I was thinking of changing the oil this weekend and letting the MM run down to the 15% and by then the car will probably have about 10,000 miles.

Normally I would not care, but, judging by what the MM reads and the cars current miles I would rather not let the factory fill run out to about 10,000 miles. What do you think?

Last edited by dan_erickson; 03/16/18 08:48 PM.

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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697082
03/16/18 08:43 PM
03/16/18 08:43 PM
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If it were my car, I’d change it.


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2000 Toyota Camry 2.2L 233k Mobil Super HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
1996 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L 148k Mobil 1 HM 10w40 & Fram Ultra
Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697084
03/16/18 08:46 PM
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Change it.

Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697092
03/16/18 08:54 PM
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sonoma
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leave it or get another few qrts of their break in oil.

Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697096
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It has the 1.5 turbo GDI engine? I would change it now and change every 5k. Does the oil have any fuel smell to it?


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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697100
03/16/18 08:56 PM
03/16/18 08:56 PM
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Not only does Honda tell you not to change it earlier, but they also give a pretty good reason why NOT to change it early. But you still want to? Crazy! Maybe you need to reread why it's not recommended to change it early again. If you still want to change it early....

Re: To change or not to change? [Re: burla] #4697102
03/16/18 08:59 PM
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Trav Offline
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Originally Posted By: burla
leave it or get another few qrts of their break in oil.


They don't use a break in oil, the higher moly content comes from the assembly lube to prevent dry start, after initial start it serves no real purpose.
If it were mine the oil would have been long gone like 4K ago.


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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: TheIceStormof06] #4697113
03/16/18 09:10 PM
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dan_erickson Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: TheIceStormof06
Not only does Honda tell you not to change it earlier, but they also give a pretty good reason why NOT to change it early. But you still want to? Crazy! Maybe you need to reread why it's not recommended to change it early again. If you still want to change it early....

The car has 5,000 miles. What ever special sauce that Honda used in their factory fill has done its job. I changed the oil on my 2015 Acoord at 6,000 miles but the MM told me it was time.

Re: To change or not to change? [Re: Trav] #4697117
03/16/18 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: burla
leave it or get another few qrts of their break in oil.
They don't use a break in oil, the higher moly content comes from the assembly lube to prevent dry start, after initial start it serves no real purpose.
If it were mine the oil would have been long gone like 4K ago.
Same here. My new GLC has 1,600 on it and if I could have, I would have dumped it 600 miles ago, but out it goes in the morning.


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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697121
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I would have changed it 4K miles ago. But that's me.


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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697122
03/16/18 09:18 PM
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I don't think it really matters 3K more or right now; you should be concern long term OCI

we changed on our CRV right at 5K, and dealership advised that too


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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697137
03/16/18 09:41 PM
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What do I think?

I think you are going to do what you want to do. I also think it doesn’t much matter... hide hornets

Me, I probably wouldn’t change it early unless there was some indicator (like fuel smell) ... 2cents


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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697154
03/16/18 10:06 PM
03/16/18 10:06 PM
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out there
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My cx-5 is at 1900 miles and has been changed twice. once at 300miles the second at 1500. Now I'll do 5k.

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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697167
03/16/18 10:27 PM
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Change it.


To quote a friend, "Synthetics, man."

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Re: To change or not to change? [Re: dan_erickson] #4697171
03/16/18 10:32 PM
03/16/18 10:32 PM
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Change it indeed. I did mine at 4600 but i wish i’ve done way before. Oil level was rapidly rising due to fuel dilution so i really uad no choice.

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