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1GR-FE Oil #4695835
03/15/18 04:03 PM
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I am comparing the 4 oils below for my 4Runner. I am thinking I will not be working the engine very hard so I will go with the 0w-20 as per primary recommendation from Toyota for fuel economy. OCI will be 1 year in the Summer. Lots and lots of short trips, a little highway and driving to work 8 miles each way. 4000-8000 miles a year.

If the time comes where I am towing or driving with more engine demand I will move up to a Xw-30 oil.

I am looking at pros and cons of the below oils:

Ravenol ECS 0w-20- PAO based, good NOACK

Schaeffers 9000 0w-20- healthy dose of Moly, lots of users happy with Schaeffers products

Amsoil Sig. Series 0w-20- Seems like a good overall oil, well regarded

Mobil 1 AFE 0w-20- good overall, just seems so boring for an oil Guru

Other threads poo pooed my Eneos Sustina and TGMO idea, saying that they were geared towards extreme fuel economy benefit and nothing too special overall.

Yes, I know this vehicle will probably outlast me, but am looking for an oil that is the best match for my engine and conditions. I will most likely stick with the chosen oil for the life of the vehicle/me.


03 Corvette Z06
-Amsoil 5w-30 SS
07 Honda Accord 2.4L
-Amsoil 5w-20 SS
16 Suburban 5.3L
-M1 0w-20, XG10575
18 4Runner TRD Off Road
- Factory Fill
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4695881
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Why not just run M1 EP? If I was looking for a boutique oil for this application it would probably be Redline 0w20. There's benefits to running a readily available oil which M1 AFE / EP are.


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Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4695891
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I have the same engine and I run PUP 5W30. I am expecting some Blackstone UOA results soon. Maybe that'll help you decide.

Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4695893
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Amsoil if your staying with the CAFE spec.


16 Civic Coupe Touring 33k
640:1 TCW-3 E091
Edge 0/40 XG7317
Firehawk Indy 500

06 4Runner SR5 141k
640:1 TCW-3
M1 0/40 XG3614
Falken Wildpeak AT3W
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4695896
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Even if you are not running hard a 5w20 or 5w30 synthetic may be a better choice. They have to run all the sequences tests unlike the 0w20.


2018 Trd Pro 4Runner M1 0w40
2018 Tacoma off-road Castrol 5w30 Magnatec
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4695913
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zfasts03 Offline OP
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Interesting, I didn't realize 0w-20 oils were not put through the sequence test. Are the 0w-30's?


03 Corvette Z06
-Amsoil 5w-30 SS
07 Honda Accord 2.4L
-Amsoil 5w-20 SS
16 Suburban 5.3L
-M1 0w-20, XG10575
18 4Runner TRD Off Road
- Factory Fill
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4695970
03/15/18 06:31 PM
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Any name major brand synthetic would work. Wait for a clearance sale or promotion for $10-$12/5qt jug and load up. That's your new favorite brand. smile

I've done what with PP, M1 AFE and QSUD. This is for my 14 Sienna with the same engine. I use OEM filters bought in a case of 5-6 from ebay for ~ $5 each.

Last edited by danez_yoda; 03/15/18 06:32 PM.
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4696016
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Shannow replied with the sequence test deposit formation exemption for 0w20 ilsac oils in your other thread.
The table shows the specific exempti9. For the deposit formation test that 0w20 ilsac gf5 oils enjoy.
To answer your question, 0w30 ilsac gf 5 grades have to undergo all of the test.

Last edited by Bryanccfshr; 03/15/18 07:12 PM.

2018 Trd Pro 4Runner M1 0w40
2018 Tacoma off-road Castrol 5w30 Magnatec
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4696026
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Here ya go. link


95 Cherokee 190K DELO 10W30,XG8
07 IS250 98K Napa 10w30,FULL
04 YZF-R1 19K DELO 15w40,XG7317
99 HD XL1200S 18K VR1 20w50,1515
14 RX450h 32k PP MIX,NAPAG
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4696056
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zfasts03 Offline OP
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Got it! Saw 0w-20 exempt from the deposit test in the other thread.

Thanks!


03 Corvette Z06
-Amsoil 5w-30 SS
07 Honda Accord 2.4L
-Amsoil 5w-20 SS
16 Suburban 5.3L
-M1 0w-20, XG10575
18 4Runner TRD Off Road
- Factory Fill
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4696193
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Id go with something you can readily obtain at a good price. Ive yet to see definitive proof that an expensive boutique oil is better than something like M1 or Castrol EP, especially for a rather vanilla engine like the 1GR. Remember, the R&D budgets and procurement ability are far greater with a company like XOM and BP. Given the volumes and the fact that XOM and BP make the base stock, a $5/qt M1 oil could be identical or better than a $8/qt Amsoil purely because they can leverage lower costs and margins.

Last edited by 1JZ_E46; 03/15/18 10:34 PM.

2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: 1GR-FE Oil [Re: zfasts03] #4696219
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0W-30 AFE.


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