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#4695102 - 03/14/18 09:50 PM 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40
frankge Offline


Registered: 03/14/18
Posts: 3
Loc: Tampa, FL
My first UOA and post here. I bout this used with 3000 miles, changed oil to Motorex Top Speed 10w40 and then to Mobil1 MX 4T after 3200 miles. Looks like I can try 4500 for next OCI.



Edited by frankge (03/14/18 09:51 PM)

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#4695139 - 03/14/18 10:25 PM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
Reddy45 Offline


Registered: 08/15/08
Posts: 3034
Loc: USA
Thanks for sharing. It looks like the oil sheared to a 30 weight oil though (at least based on this https://www.bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/)

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#4695197 - 03/14/18 11:28 PM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
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Registered: 12/31/17
Posts: 1911
Loc: SE British Columbia, Canada

But hey, Blackstone said “ The slightly thin viscosity is harmless” banana

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#4695561 - 03/15/18 11:25 AM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
frankge Offline


Registered: 03/14/18
Posts: 3
Loc: Tampa, FL
I switched to Mobil1 which is supposed have a better based stock. TopSpeed is a group III and the oil looked pretty good when I changed it. Going to stretch it to 4500 this time. I use a K&N oil filter with neo magnets. I'm not worried about the shear, I wont run a 50wt even in Florida. People run heavy oils because the "if two aspirins is good 3 are better" syndrome. This is a water cooled bike and I do run it pretty hard at times, my previous monster was air-cooled, I ran 50wt in that.


Edited by frankge (03/15/18 11:30 AM)

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#4697325 - 03/17/18 07:57 AM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
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Registered: 07/10/12
Posts: 2182
Loc: South Carolina
Thanks for posting, pass on the exotic oils, think you will see way better results with the Mobile 1 you just chose, or any other regular oils like Valvoline or Castrol.

Looking forward to the next UOA.
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#4724603 - 04/12/18 11:07 AM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
dole Offline


Registered: 02/14/17
Posts: 43
Loc: China
this oil looks pounded hard, knocked down 30percent of viscosity.

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#4729450 - 04/16/18 10:56 PM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
Bonz Offline


Registered: 06/05/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Colorado, USA
I assume this Monster is a liquid cooled model? Not one of the older air cooled?

There are not many oils that stay in the grade in a shared sump engine especially a model like this with V twin torque pulses crunching the oil between gears in the transmission.

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#4732503 - 04/19/18 08:39 PM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
Mackelroy Offline


Registered: 12/03/04
Posts: 1014
Loc: Florida /Texas
Originally Posted By: frankge
I switched to Mobil1 which is supposed have a better based stock. TopSpeed is a group III and the oil looked pretty good when I changed it. Going to stretch it to 4500 this time. I use a K&N oil filter with neo magnets. I'm not worried about the shear, I wont run a 50wt even in Florida. People run heavy oils because the "if two aspirins is good 3 are better" syndrome. This is a water cooled bike and I do run it pretty hard at times, my previous monster was air-cooled, I ran 50wt in that.


Tops speed is a groupIII, and you belive mobil1 is a group Iv?

One key note, Mobil1 mc oils, used to have a lot higher flash points years ago, the base oil aint the same.

As to your 50 weight comment, add 1 quart of 50 weight in your favorite 10w40 brands, and you'll have a better chance of holding 40 weight.

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#4733445 - 04/20/18 07:29 PM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
dole Offline


Registered: 02/14/17
Posts: 43
Loc: China
Looks OK, thanks.
Iron and Aluminium a bit high, I reckon its to do with the bike per se.

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#4734000 - 04/21/18 10:13 AM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
Bonz Offline


Registered: 06/05/13
Posts: 62
Loc: Colorado, USA
Originally Posted By: frankge
I switched to Mobil1 which is supposed have a better based stock. TopSpeed is a group III and the oil looked pretty good when I changed it. Going to stretch it to 4500 this time. I use a K&N oil filter with neo magnets. I'm not worried about the shear, I wont run a 50wt even in Florida. People run heavy oils because the "if two aspirins is good 3 are better" syndrome. This is a water cooled bike and I do run it pretty hard at times, my previous monster was air-cooled, I ran 50wt in that.


DOH!!! I see this is the liquid cooled Monster, my bad for asking that question when I should have been paying full attention.

Mobil 1 4T 10w40 had a huge dose of zinc/phosphorus (1750/1600 ppm) up until March 2017 when I noticed a change. It shows a significant drop in zinc/phosphorus for this oil (1200/1100 ppm). This continues to show in the most recent Feb 2018 update (link below).

Link: scroll to page 4. https://mobiloil.com/~/media/amer/us/pvl/files/pdfs/mobil-1-oil-product-specs-guide.pdf

M1 20w50 V-Twin continues to have the higher zinc/phosphorus content, however is a heavier wt than you say you want to run.

I am not sure how zinc and phosphorus are valued in a Ducati valvetrain using desmodromic direct actuation, however a heavier oil with higher zinc and phosphorus in my bikes in a warmer climate isn’t anything I would shy away from, IMO.





Edited by Bonz (04/21/18 10:15 AM)

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#4735593 - 04/22/18 07:57 PM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
benjy Offline


Registered: 08/23/10
Posts: 909
Loc: pa
my friend + former ducati dealer + savy tech noted ducati radiators could be bigger for their power levels but in the interest of small + light they are not! he also noticed the change in Mobil I oils from years past when they WERE all PAO + prolly a bit of Ester, but like most Amsoil included the oils use cheaper group III base oils to compete + take advantage of the ruling allowing group III refined CRUDE oils advertised + sold as "synthetic"!!

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#4749060 - 05/06/18 08:30 AM Re: 2014 Ducati Monster 1200S - Motorex TopSpeed 10w40 [Re: frankge]
frankge Offline


Registered: 03/14/18
Posts: 3
Loc: Tampa, FL
I do not consider Mobil1 a group IV base, just a good oil that's recommended and not as expensive (necessary) as the boutique oils. Its not a money thing as I don't ride this like a commuter and would spend $15/qt if there was a significant advantage. I might consider mixing the 40 and 50 if the next test proves its necessary. I do run this pretty hard time to time but overall I'm a little older now and "less" of a punk on the bike wink

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