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#4694880 - 03/14/18 06:38 PM Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole!
Stelth Offline


Registered: 02/24/11
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OK, my pics won't be as good as car51's grin2 but I'll post them anyway. This is from a Dodge 360, equivalent Fram number is PH16.







Nitrile ADBV, reasonably pliable. Interestingly, this has a thread-end bypass. I didn't notice the hole until I was looking at the pictures. I went back out and looked again, and sure enough, there's a hole in the media. Nuts. I guess I'll have to stick with Wix and/or Fram.
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#4694887 - 03/14/18 06:42 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
Trav Offline


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I wonder if Baldwin is also effected? Did you contact Hastings?
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#4694888 - 03/14/18 06:44 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
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Nice lol.
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#4694894 - 03/14/18 06:50 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
ZeeOSix Offline


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Originally Posted By: Stelth
Interestingly, this has a thread-end bypass.


Is the first photo of the threaded end with the base end bypass valve spot welded into the end cap?

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#4694896 - 03/14/18 06:50 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Trav]
Stelth Offline


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Originally Posted By: Trav
I wonder if Baldwin is also effected? Did you contact Hastings?


No, I haven't. I just saw the hole as I was cropping the pics just now. I'll send them the picture with the hole and see what they say.
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#4694901 - 03/14/18 06:56 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
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#4694905 - 03/14/18 06:59 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
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Ok. Where is this hole located??
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#4694906 - 03/14/18 06:59 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: ZeeOSix]
Stelth Offline


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Originally Posted By: ZeeOSix
Originally Posted By: Stelth
Interestingly, this has a thread-end bypass.


Is the first photo of the threaded end with the base end bypass valve spot welded into the end cap?


Yes, but it appears to be riveted.
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#4694908 - 03/14/18 07:01 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: bbhero]
Stelth Offline


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Originally Posted By: bbhero
Ok. Where is this hole located??


If you look at the second picture, it's in the "valley", one pleat to the left of the seam.
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#4694928 - 03/14/18 07:15 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
Linctex Offline


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How odd....... Yes, I think they should pay to have it shipped to them for examination.
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#4694947 - 03/14/18 07:31 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
bbhero Offline


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Hmmm ok. Candidly I thought that was something caught by the filter. Seemed a bit high up on it.

But yeah that is surprising. And not good.
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#4694985 - 03/14/18 08:03 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
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First one I have ever seen in a Hastings/Baldwin ... frown
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#4695026 - 03/14/18 08:36 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
Trav Offline


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I wonder what the root cause of all these filter problems is, oil pressure too high when cold for old technology unsupported filter media?
Other than the FU, WIx XP and some OE cartridge filters the filters today don't look much different than they did 40 years ago when oil pressures were generally much lower.

Just thinking out loud.
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#4695052 - 03/14/18 09:02 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Stelth]
ZeeOSix Offline


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It's oil flow combined with the oil viscosity that puts stress on the media, not oil pressure seen inside the can or on the dash gauge. Looks like another case of wide pleat spacing.

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#4695124 - 03/14/18 10:16 PM Re: Hastings LF107 about 6000 miles - hole! [Re: Trav]
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Originally Posted By: Trav
I wonder what the root cause of all these filter problems is, oil pressure too high when cold for old technology unsupported filter media?
Other than the FU, WIx XP and some OE cartridge filters the filters today don't look much different than they did 40 years ago when oil pressures were generally much lower.
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40 years ago pressure differentials across the media were not as high, because we weren't forced to use miniature filters. I agree with Zee that total pressure isn't relevant.
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