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Generator on Sale..thoughts? #4694803
03/14/18 05:26 PM
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krismoriah72 Offline OP
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I have a Champion 3500 watt generator that still runs but I am looking for a smaller one.

My Champion has a broken pull cord, the battery is totally dead (i have jumper cables that i jump start it with). The carb leaked on me so i put a cheap chinese ebay carb on it, the choke lever is broken so i have to carefully start it with a screwdriver.. other than that it runs great and does what its supposed to.


I have power outages where i live often, so it gets used many times per year. However i would like a small one to put in the bed of my sidebyside to go camping and also serve as a backup the next time this champion has an issue.


The Harbor Freight Predator 2000 is on sale now for $449.

NAPA has what looks to be its clone in blue for $600 on sale. https://www.napaonline.com/en/p/BHQBE2000

Amazon has a WEN that also looks to be a clone of the Predator https://www.amazon.com/WEN-56200i-2000-Watt-Generator-Compliant/dp/B00SMNLF4M

The Predator 2000 gets pretty good reviews..if the NAPA and WEN are both clones this must be a decent platform.

Thoughts?

Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694811
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My Troybilt 5500 drinks 5 gallons in about 8 hours so I too was thinking about getting the much smaller Honda or Harbor Freight. There are a million YouTube videos of both. Most videos seem to give the much cheaper HF a thumbs up. I am pretty sure I am going to pick one up before hurricane season.
I would use the HF during the day for the fridge and TV and run the bigger one at night for a small AC unit in the bedroom+fridge+ a few lights and computer.
For Wilma I did not have power for 6 days. That is a lot of gas, especailly when all the gas stations are closed.

Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694815
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It depends if weight is important to you. Those Yamahaís and Hondaís are very light. The Chamahas and Chondas are 1/2 the price but heavier. Iíll let the others chime in on quality. Honda 2000 is 45 lbs. WEN 2000 is about 10 lbs heavier. If you have a good back it obviously doesnít matter.

Last edited by Snagglefoot; 03/14/18 05:49 PM.

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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694817
03/14/18 05:38 PM
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My little Champion 2000 inverter seems pretty decent for around $450.


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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694818
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I've had that same WEN inverter generator for a few years now. It goes on sale a few times per year on Woot - I got it in 2015 for $430.71, including tax and shipping.

It still has only around 100 hrs on it, but has put out the rated power without issue every time I've needed it to.

With just the fridge, lights and batteries charging, this thing seemingly runs forever.


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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: Blueskies123] #4694822
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krismoriah72 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: Blueskies123
My Troybilt 5500 drinks 5 gallons in about 8 hours so I too was thinking about getting the much smaller Honda or Harbor Freight. There are a million YouTube videos of both. Most videos seem to give the much cheaper HF a thumbs up. I am pretty sure I am going to pick one up before hurricane season.
I would use the HF during the day for the fridge and TV and run the bigger one at night for a small AC unit in the bedroom+fridge+ a few lights and computer.
For Wilma I did not have power for 6 days. That is a lot of gas, especailly when all the gas stations are closed.


My buddy has this one https://www.amazon.com/DuroMax-XP2000iS-Running-Watts-Starting/dp/B0108N8R8U it too looks like a clone of the others..

He has a camper that we stay in when we go on long riding trips. It does the heat or ac, tv and fridge just fine. But all are smaller units than household.

Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: hatt] #4694831
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krismoriah72 Offline OP
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Originally Posted By: hatt
My little Champion 2000 inverter seems pretty decent for around $450.


Yes i will throw this into the mix.. $450

https://www.lowes.com/pd/Champion-Power-...gine/1000039699

Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694839
03/14/18 05:57 PM
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Donald Offline
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You must have city water. With a well I need at least 5000 maybe 7500.


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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694850
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Looking at the same gen as you. A few weeks ago I saw a Ryobi on HD for 399 a clone I'm sure. Keep looking.

Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: Donald] #4694897
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Originally Posted By: Donald
You must have city water. With a well I need at least 5000 maybe 7500.


220v pump?
I have the 3200 predator and run two window AC units, well, a few lights and the refrigerator.


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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694902
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Saw an inverter gen on BF for $300 a few years back. Might have been a 1k but Moore's Law says this stuff will get cheaper.

Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694909
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The quality control at the Champion factory is OUTSTANDING!

Almost as good as a Honda....... not quite, but close.

WEN.... meh.
They are just OK. Not as good as Champion.

Harbor freight - I had one generator one time, 12 years ago
Carb was waaaaay too lean (Emissions?) for E10 fuel.

I took a torch cleaning tool to the main jet and then it ran perfect....
But the breaker switch would trip at no where NEAR max load.

I could've replaced the breaker switch, but I just took it back


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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694924
03/14/18 07:13 PM
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Well guys, I still say that if it's a Honda you can know it will be a quality item. Automobiles, generators, lawn mowers, outboard engine and so on.

I would be concerned about are the cheap junk generators, lower output at altitude, lower output in relation to rated capacity and short lifespan are the most common.. Some generators are different at Home Depot vs Tractor Supply even when they have the same model number. Champion, Generac, etc all do this. Surprised me when found that out. Same with lawn tractors/mowers and other items.

Honda and Yamaha generators are the same no matter where you buy them.

Last edited by Vern_in_IL; 03/14/18 07:15 PM.
Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: krismoriah72] #4694932
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Check the valve lash inspection intervals on these generators - thats a good indication of material quality.


UD


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Re: Generator on Sale..thoughts? [Re: Vern_in_IL] #4694939
03/14/18 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted By: Vern_in_IL
Well guys, I still say that if it's a Honda you can know it will be a quality item. Automobiles, generators, lawn mowers, outboard engine and so on.

I would be concerned about are the cheap junk generators, lower output at altitude, lower output in relation to rated capacity and short lifespan are the most common.. Some generators are different at Home Depot vs Tractor Supply even when they have the same model number. Champion, Generac, etc all do this. Surprised me when found that out. Same with lawn tractors/mowers and other items.

Honda and Yamaha generators are the same no matter where you buy them.


Honda generators are twice the price of my WEN and Yamahas are, well, more? I remember seeing one on sale a while back, but I want to say it was still a couple of hundred dollars more, still.

For the price, you could buy two WEN generators, run them in parallel for more power capacity, and throw one of them away if it fails. I don't know the stats, but I doubt the Honda is 100% more reliable than a WEN...right? Please tell me I'm right - I own a WEN!


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