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#4694756 - 03/14/18 04:24 PM Tesla Parts
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#4694773 - 03/14/18 04:45 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Y_K]
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True? Fake news? Who knows but I don't see the problem with reworking parts that could cause problems down the road before they go into a new car.
Even if they just increased the size of a bushing on a new part for durability that would be considered reworking. Destined to become a bashing thread.
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#4694797 - 03/14/18 05:12 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Y_K]
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Or they could be like other manufacturers and just ship known faulty parts and then issue a recall.
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#4694808 - 03/14/18 05:32 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Y_K]
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The news is true that MUSK has found out how hard building a vehicle can be. Someone said it best on another forum I read-"By the time the Model 3 is at full production-it will be so 2016" (tech-wise).

Also stated-"Their quality is less than a 1963 Chrysler".


The Chevy Bolt is real and one can buy it NOW.


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#4694847 - 03/14/18 06:02 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: bdcardinal]
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Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Or they could be like other manufacturers and just ship known faulty parts and then issue a recall.


You would know that better than anyone, you see it every day.
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#4694854 - 03/14/18 06:09 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: CKN]
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I think he struggles with realization that making a prototype and a bunch of test samples is one thing, but to make a product market ready and mass production of it is another one.
Whatever it is, we live in times of folks making billions without making profit and without making on their promises. As long as the market gets what it wants, this is what the market deserves. The same as with gov

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#4694863 - 03/14/18 06:17 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Trav]
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Originally Posted By: Trav
Originally Posted By: bdcardinal
Or they could be like other manufacturers and just ship known faulty parts and then issue a recall.


You would know that better than anyone, you see it every day.


So that new recall on Fusions where the bolt that holds the steering wheel on comes loose and the wheels falls off, my mom has one. I tried to be a good son and order a part and hide it for her but I can't order parts for the recall yet. They are seed stocking us an unknown amount. Great, now I get to deal with my mom freaking out about her steering wheel falling off.
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#4694869 - 03/14/18 06:25 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Y_K]
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Originally Posted By: Y_K
I think he struggles with realization that making a prototype and a bunch of test samples is one thing, but to make a product market ready and mass production of it is another one.
Whatever it is, we live in times of folks making billions without making profit and without making on their promises. As long as the market gets what it wants, this is what the market deserves. The same as with gov


Well said........

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#4694903 - 03/14/18 06:57 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: CKN]
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Sure, but the average Model 3 aspirant wouldn't be caught dead in any Chevy.
The Bolt is a real car from a real manufacturer, but never mind that.
A new Bolt or vaporware from a manufacturer yet to find its feet?
I know where I'd put my money.
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#4694930 - 03/14/18 07:16 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Y_K]
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Originally Posted By: Y_K
I think he struggles with realization that making a prototype and a bunch of test samples is one thing, but to make a product market ready and mass production of it is another one.


No, he doesn't, otherwise he would have hired a COO to handle the day-to-day operations, put out fires, deal with suppliers, and all the other minutiae that CEOs shouldn't have to deal with. Particularly one who splits his time between multiple companies.

Yet, he's a micromanger who often insinuates himself in every part of the process, and believes that pitching a tent in the middle of the factory is anything but a stunt, and will solve problems.

An essential part of being a good manager is hiring qualified people and letting them do their jobs. Puzzling, since that's how he allows SpaceX to run.

He's a successful visionary no doubt, and that's what he does best. Not trying to help fix panel gaps and stuff like that.

With the onslaught of competition coming, it's not going to get any easier for a company that has difficulty executing on the fundamentals.

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#4694937 - 03/14/18 07:19 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Y_K]
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Even if they could churn these out at a rapid rate, how many people are willing to buy a $42k car? That is not the price tag on something that was supposed to revolutionize EV ownership.

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#4695044 - 03/14/18 08:54 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Reddy45]
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Even if they could churn these out at a rapid rate, how many people are willing to buy a $42k car? That is not the price tag on something that was supposed to revolutionize EV ownership.


+1. The Tesla geek boys will take out loans to buy their Tesla and then sales will flop.

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#4695100 - 03/14/18 09:49 PM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Reddy45]
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Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Even if they could churn these out at a rapid rate, how many people are willing to buy a $42k car? That is not the price tag on something that was supposed to revolutionize EV ownership.


Considering the ASP of new vehicles in the U.S. is ~$33k, and that of the F-150, the best selling vehicle, is above 40 grand, there should be plenty of buyers who can afford a $42k car, right in the heart of the compact luxury segment.

More than four-hundred thousand people have put down $1000 to buy one.

I'm no Tesla fanboy, but the facts clearly indicate that there is a market for the Model 3, whether one wishes to believe it or not.

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#4695207 - 03/15/18 12:06 AM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: Carmudgeon]
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Originally Posted By: Carmudgeon
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Even if they could churn these out at a rapid rate, how many people are willing to buy a $42k car? That is not the price tag on something that was supposed to revolutionize EV ownership.


Considering the ASP of new vehicles in the U.S. is ~$33k, and that of the F-150, the best selling vehicle, is above 40 grand, there should be plenty of buyers who can afford a $42k car, right in the heart of the compact luxury segment.

More than four-hundred thousand people have put down $1000 to buy one.

I'm no Tesla fanboy, but the facts clearly indicate that there is a market for the Model 3, whether one wishes to believe it or not.


You missed the part where I said 'revolutionize'.

People being able to afford a $42K car is not the same as Tesla attempting to make EV ownership as regular as white bread by pricing the Model 3 at that amount.

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#4695438 - 03/15/18 09:14 AM Re: Tesla Parts [Re: CKN]
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The news is true that MUSK has found out how hard building a vehicle can be.


He seems to know how to make OK rockets.

It's not unprecedented for companies to be able to make OK rockets and lousy cars at the same time. Chrysler comes immediately to mind.

I see one of the Tesla cars, don't know which one, several times a week going down the road. I've never seen parts fall off it. Can't say that about the Honda or VW I owned.
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