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M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 #4693829
03/13/18 06:20 PM
03/13/18 06:20 PM
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Canada
Thugzy Offline OP
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Both oils are on sale at my local retailer. For my GLK350 which is the better performer overall?.... Next OCI this spring, therefore for warmer temps

Last edited by Thugzy; 03/13/18 06:26 PM.

'18 F150 Lariat 3.5EB - M1 0W40 FS/PG2500EX(Sept'18)
'15 F150 Lariat 5.0 - Total Quartz 9000 5W30/DENSO(June'18)
'13 GLK350 4Matic - M1 0W40/PG9904EX(Sept'18)
'01 S2000 - M1 0W40/Toyo Roki(Apr'18)
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Thugzy] #4693860
03/13/18 06:49 PM
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If you can actually get Total, try it smile

Nice to see an oil that isn't the same thing everyone else uses. I've never seen any Total oil on a US store shelf. And I've seen PUP *and* I've even seen Amsoil, but never Total crzy

Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4693924
03/13/18 07:29 PM
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Middlesex County CT
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
If you can actually get Total, try it smile

Nice to see an oil that isn't the same thing everyone else uses. I've never seen any Total oil on a US store shelf. And I've seen PUP *and* I've even seen Amsoil, but never Total crzy


OT:

http://www.totalspecialties.com/find-us-b2c.html


2004 Prius; 102K; ASL
2007 Yaris 78K 0w-40 Castrol
2006 B2300;132K;ALM


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Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: slacktide_bitog] #4693941
03/13/18 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted By: slacktide_bitog
If you can actually get Total, try it smile

Nice to see an oil that isn't the same thing everyone else uses. I've never seen any Total oil on a US store shelf. And I've seen PUP *and* I've even seen Amsoil, but never Total crzy
Shipped to your door in 2 days with Prime. smile https://www.amazon.com/Total-185703-12PK-Quartz-Energy-Engine/dp/B00NFFE7PG?th=1


'95 Chevy 1/2t 305 208k -NexGen Maxlife 5w-30, Wix filter
'89 Jeep Comanche 4.0 278k - GC 0w-30, Bosch LongLife filter
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Thugzy] #4694566
03/14/18 11:35 AM
03/14/18 11:35 AM
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Canada
Thugzy Offline OP
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Total has popped up and more accessible now through Part source, owned by [censored] tire In Canada... Might be a sales market test to see if it would be worth selling in [censored] Tire


'18 F150 Lariat 3.5EB - M1 0W40 FS/PG2500EX(Sept'18)
'15 F150 Lariat 5.0 - Total Quartz 9000 5W30/DENSO(June'18)
'13 GLK350 4Matic - M1 0W40/PG9904EX(Sept'18)
'01 S2000 - M1 0W40/Toyo Roki(Apr'18)
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Thugzy] #4695187
03/14/18 10:19 PM
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Oregon
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M1 0W-40 is a hard oil to beat, and itís a [censored] of a value. Total may be worse than the M1 and it costs more.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4695255
03/15/18 01:32 AM
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Colorado Springs
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
M1 0W-40 is a hard oil to beat, and itís a [censored] of a value. Total may be worse than the M1 and it costs more.

I do not know is it "worse" then M1 if it meets MB229.5.
This FS M1 is IMO unimpressive in all aspects.


15' Toyota Sienna AWD (Mobil1 0W20 EP+ 2qt of M1 0W40 + FRAM Ultra).
11' VW Tiguan 2.0T (Castrol 0W40+MANN filter)
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: edyvw] #4696559
03/16/18 09:34 AM
03/16/18 09:34 AM
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Canada
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
M1 0W-40 is a hard oil to beat, and itís a [censored] of a value. Total may be worse than the M1 and it costs more.

I do not know is it "worse" then M1 if it meets MB229.5.
This FS M1 is IMO unimpressive in all aspects.


Is the FS M1 the gold label 0W40?

What I have in my stock is the grey label "European Car Forumla" is this the better version? Its getting replaced?

thanks


'18 F150 Lariat 3.5EB - M1 0W40 FS/PG2500EX(Sept'18)
'15 F150 Lariat 5.0 - Total Quartz 9000 5W30/DENSO(June'18)
'13 GLK350 4Matic - M1 0W40/PG9904EX(Sept'18)
'01 S2000 - M1 0W40/Toyo Roki(Apr'18)
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Thugzy] #4696597
03/16/18 10:14 AM
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I was just going to post about this "Total" oil and ask what it's all about? I noticed it today just scrolling through the Part Source weekly flyer and wondered if it was new, where it came from, etc? I noticed the price and thought to myself, its a pretty stout price for something that is new on the market, but maybe its not new at all?
http://www.partsource.ca/en/flyer.html


2017 Chevy Impala 3.6 L.
2013 Ram 5.7 L Hemi Bighorn QC 4x4
2008 Chevy Malibu 2.4 L Ecotec
Pennzoil Platinum and/or Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in all 3.
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: edyvw] #4696724
03/16/18 12:19 PM
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Oregon
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Originally Posted By: edyvw
I do not know is it "worse" then M1 if it meets MB229.5.
This FS M1 is IMO unimpressive in all aspects.


Not saying it's worse, just saying it is seldom used here due to availability. I'd rather choose something that I know has a good track record. M1 0W-40 FS has lots of reviews and UOAs here and seems pretty solid (almost as good as it once was)... plus it's ~$4-5 per quart and readily available. If Total was the same price, I'd say go for it.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4696834
03/16/18 02:30 PM
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San Francisco, CA
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: edyvw
I do not know is it "worse" then M1 if it meets MB229.5.
This FS M1 is IMO unimpressive in all aspects.


Not saying it's worse, just saying it is seldom used here due to availability. I'd rather choose something that I know has a good track record. M1 0W-40 FS has lots of reviews and UOAs here and seems pretty solid (almost as good as it once was)... plus it's ~$4-5 per quart and readily available. If Total was the same price, I'd say go for it.


M1 FS doesn't even hold BMW LL-01 any more, while the TOTAL does. On TOTAL's TDS they don't claim that it is a full synthetic, just that it is "synthetic technology."

If you're gonna go with expensive French oil, go with Motul.

Last edited by Flying_A; 03/16/18 02:36 PM.
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Flying_A] #4696888
03/16/18 03:48 PM
03/16/18 03:48 PM
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Oregon
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Oregon
Originally Posted By: Flying_A
If you're gonna go with expensive French oil, go with Motul.


Agreed. However, I'll pass on French anything. Except maybe some fries.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: 1JZ_E46] #4697090
03/16/18 07:53 PM
03/16/18 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: 1JZ_E46
Originally Posted By: Flying_A
If you're gonna go with expensive French oil, go with Motul.


Agreed. However, I'll pass on French anything. Except maybe some fries.


Haha that's not really fair... Contrary to popular belief the French are pretty innovative and are responsible for a ton of high-tech stuff in the automotive and motorsport sector.

Last edited by Flying_A; 03/16/18 07:56 PM.
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Flying_A] #4697429
03/17/18 08:53 AM
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Oregon
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Originally Posted By: Flying_A
Haha that's not really fair... Contrary to popular belief the French are pretty innovative and are responsible for a ton of high-tech stuff in the automotive and motorsport sector.


Haha fair enough. Iíll still pass on Total, though! Hard to justify the premium.


2007 X5 4.8i: M1 HM 10W-30
2016 Countryman S: EDGE 0W-30
Re: M1 0W40 vs Total 9000 5W40 [Re: Thugzy] #4697461
03/17/18 09:29 AM
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Nothign wrong with Total, they have some solid products and in South / Central Europe they outsell Mobil 1 by A LOT.


1975 Ford Capri II Ghia 3000 V6, - Shell Helix HX3 20W-50 w/ 20% Rimula R4X 15W-40 HDEO.

1988 Ford Escort Mk4 Xr3i Cabrio, - Shell Rimula R4X 15W-40, w/ 30% Helix 3 20W-50.

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