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Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? #4693793
03/13/18 06:43 PM
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For years I had these plastic syringes with plastic hoses that I found on the Snap On truck a long time ago. The 90 degree hoses have become too soft to use any more and I'm missing most of the conical adapters that came with them. Time for something new.
Anyone have the Phoenix tools, or is there anything else out there that works well?

Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4693798
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60ml enema syringe. Think they cost about 90 cents.

Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4693799
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I often use a horse syringe.


1987 BMW R65 - Penrite V Twin 20/50
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: Ducked] #4693800
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Originally Posted By: Ducked
60ml enema syringe. Think they cost about 90 cents.


That's pretty much what I had. If I can find a kit with all the hoses and adapters I would just do it again.

Plus, all the tubeless sealant I buy for bicycle tires comes with syringes. I certainly have no shortage of them around here.

Last edited by NYEngineer; 03/13/18 06:51 PM.
Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4693882
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Originally Posted By: NYEngineer
Originally Posted By: Ducked
60ml enema syringe. Think they cost about 90 cents.


That's pretty much what I had. If I can find a kit with all the hoses and adapters I would just do it again.

Plus, all the tubeless sealant I buy for bicycle tires comes with syringes. I certainly have no shortage of them around here.


I just connect to the bleed nipple with a bit of vinyl aqquarium tubing. Can either pull or push fluid, or cycle between them, which is useful if there are stubborn bubbles.

I'd guess with "hoses and adaptors" you are talking about connecting to the mc reservoir. Never done that, and don't really see the need, but maybe ABS would make a difference.

Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4693953
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A drench gun is an expensive alternative, although cheaper than the Phoenix here.


1987 BMW R65 - Penrite V Twin 20/50
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4694272
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I had to look up what a drench gun was. Now we all know where the inventor of the Phoenix tool got the idea.

Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4694468
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So, while searching Ebay, I came across Eze Bleeder. That's exactly what I had. I'm just going to grab a new one. It worked great.
Thanks for the replies.

Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4697705
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Honest question here. Any concern about air or junk getting trapped in the abs using one of these?

Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4697748
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The air powered vacuum bleeder made by OTC is FN awesome for bleeding brakes all by yourself in very little time. Just hook it to a compressed air line, lock on the trigger, and watch it pull a pint of brake fluid in about 30 seconds. It's all about moving a good volume of fluid quickly, and the air is gone. It's around $100, and comes with everything you need, including a auto fill bottle. It's worth every penny.

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Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: Chester11] #4697820
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Originally Posted By: Chester11
Honest question here. Any concern about air or junk getting trapped in the abs using one of these?


Just take steps to make sure you don't do that. I clamp the hoses, and compress the caliper to clear out the old fluid, this is where most of the crud is. Then drain the master cyl, and with it empty, reverse flush, suck that muck out and refill. I've never had an issue with bleeding an ABS system, no matter how I bleed. Only times I have had trouble is with vacuum bleeders - they can suck air past seals, and you end up worse than when you started.

Here's a drench gun...how did they come up with the idea of the Phoenix I wonder ? There are many different styles.


Last edited by Silk; 03/17/18 06:18 PM.

1987 BMW R65 - Penrite V Twin 20/50
2005 Nissan Expert - Gulf Western 10W-40
1996 Volvo T5 - Penrite HPR15 - 15W-60. Ryco syntec filter.
Re: Anyone have a Phoenix Reverse Bleeder? [Re: NYEngineer] #4697961
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With the syringe I had in the past, I never had any trouble bleeding anything. Like Silk said, clamp everything and take your time.


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