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2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding #4693209
03/13/18 08:01 AM
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Anyone folks here replaced one without coding? Also, can i put "non" (AGM (absorbed glass mat)) battery? Thanks

Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693224
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II always do it. You might get by without registration by going with an identical replacement, but if you are changing the type of battery I'd DEFINITELY have the battery registered.


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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693236
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Why would you want to not do it? Id personally not cheap out - penny wise pound foolish. If youw ant to run an experiment, youll find out how well the battery lasts without doing so.

I believe there are non-BMW/mini scan tools that will code a battery replacement. Not sure if they will re-code a new size or type, but both are parameters to be coded in if battery type is changed.

Assuming that the same type of battery is just replaced, that is a simpler coding.

Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693240
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No, the battery needs to be registered to the vehicle due to the “smart” charging system that adjusts the charging profile as the battery ages. If a battery is replaced without registration, the lifespan will be shortened due to the aggressive charging that will take place.

Vehicle coding is not required as long as you match the aH rating to the current one registered and you do not change the battery type. This can be tricky because the battery in the vehicle now may not have the correct aH rating if it has been replaced before. Also, I would not use a non-AGM battery if the battery is inside of the vehicle.

Last edited by The Critic; 03/13/18 08:38 AM.

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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693250
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It must be registered, and if not exactly the same type/A.Hr rating as original, must also be coded.

Both can easily be done with the Carly app and dongle.
http://www.mycarly.com/product/bmw-app/

I have heard of batteries exploding if not registered/coded properly.

Last edited by mightymousetech; 03/13/18 08:53 AM.

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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693282
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thanks

Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693333
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All the newer Minis with the IB system (a box on the Neg terminal-purple arrow) need to have the replacement battery coded (registered with the cars computer), and you should use a AGM replacement.

Last edited by pkunk; 03/13/18 10:18 AM.

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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693394
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I had no knowledge of this. Are there other car makes that require coding?

Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: Old Mustang Guy] #4693397
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Originally Posted By: Old Mustang Guy
I had no knowledge of this. Are there other car makes that require coding?

Newer VW/Audi products do.

OP, if you are in NorCal, I have a Maxisys Elite and I can handle the registration for you.


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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693398
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In that Mini, use an AGM battery - JCI is now bringing them over from Germany for some brands, Deka is supplying O’Reilly.

Get it coded too, I’d wouldn’t experiment with expensive BMW power distribution/body control modules. I think Carista’s app with a authentic ELM327 dongle can do that.

Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693410
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I believe you can register the battery through the left stalk pushbutton just like changing door lock/window/ turnsignal etc. Look in your owners manual. I'd tell you how but mine is older and doesn't require it


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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: The Critic] #4693428
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Originally Posted By: The Critic
Originally Posted By: Old Mustang Guy
I had no knowledge of this. Are there other car makes that require coding?

Newer VW/Audi products do.

OP, if you are in NorCal, I have a Maxisys Elite and I can handle the registration for you.


BMW also, but Mini is BMW so there you go. We had a sales guy with an older 5 series that needed battery registration. He someone managed to get a battery from Autozone and started yelling at us that the alternator boiled the battery.


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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: 2008wrx] #4693438
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You could get a Foxwell NT510 for $150 to do that job as well as regular OBD and a few other functions.
I just looked it up, google for the best price.

NT510

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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: Old Mustang Guy] #4693583
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Originally Posted By: Old Mustang Guy
I had no knowledge of this. Are there other car makes that require coding?


I'm guessing it's going to be on every new vehicle within 7 years to squeeze a small fraction of one MPG better fuel economy.


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Re: 2015 Mini Copper Battery Replacement Coding [Re: pkunk] #4693609
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Originally Posted By: pkunk
All the newer Minis with the IB system (a box on the Neg terminal-purple arrow) need to have the replacement battery coded (registered with the cars computer), and you should use a AGM replacement.

Wow, this is where the Germans are clearly smoking cheap rave drugs. That's such a bad idea it's almost offensive.


Scambling for solutions is a hopelessly futile endeavour and potentially dangerous, without first coming to a solid, personal understanding of the problem. Beware riding the ideological hobby horse.
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