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JCI to spin off battery business? #4692423
03/12/18 11:23 AM
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https://www.wsj.com/articles/johnson-con...ness-1520867775

JCI spun off their automotive interiors business as a standalone company, sold Gentex the rights to Homelink and wanting to focus on building control and security I can see how car batteries aren't really a fit alongside JCI's HVAC business and the former Tyco security/life safety businesses.

Who would take over the battery division? Can't be Exide, Deka is small. There would be a lot of anti-trust if GS Yuasa makes a move.

Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4692432
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Very interesting.


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Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4692519
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Tesla????


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Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: Virtus_Probi] #4692527
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Originally Posted By: Virtus_Probi
Tesla????

Doubt it - JCI wanted to enter the EV market but they only found some limited success with GM's BAS system(and I do recall JCI was heavily pushing the 48V battery in Babcox's magazines for countermen and service shops) and I think they worked with a French or Israeli company on Li-ion batteries for full EVs. Panasonic, LG, Samsung and GS Yuasa have that market cornered with Li-ion, but BYD is a force to be reckoned with LiFe-PO batteries.

Tesla wouldn't want to be involved with legacy lead-acid tech.

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Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4692582
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possibly some hedge fund guru will sell jci off and cheapen the product


These products are all new every year?? They are a revolution!!! Razor blades, mens shirts, TVs, wiper blades, gutter guards, hearing aids... according to the ads. But also all new last year
Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4692687
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Maybe Carl Ichan who owns Pep Boys and Federal Mogul and part of Auto Plus will take it....??

Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4692875
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Wal-Mart has the money to buy it


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Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4692982
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I would like to see Tesla align itself with JCI in some form. Once Tesla gets on board, Tesla likes to keep its own name associated with a quality product.

Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: Kool1] #4693268
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Originally Posted By: Kool1
I would like to see Tesla align itself with JCI in some form. Once Tesla gets on board, Tesla likes to keep its own name associated with a quality product.




If Tesla has the money to buy JCI, and I doubt it, Panasonic would be first in line to collect since Tesla owes them big time and Panasonic has been getting impatient.


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Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4696465
03/16/18 07:53 AM
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wow so they sell it off and then the new owners cheapen it up and ruin it. Great.. oh but made the stock market happy. what a joke.

So if JCI is gone for batteries, and exide has always been a joke (dont even get me started on the junk they make).. who's left for quality?? east penn?

Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: nthach] #4696743
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^^^ONE of the reasons my next battery will come from EnerSys/Odyssey. wink


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Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: dailydriver] #4698196
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Originally Posted By: dailydriver
^^^ONE of the reasons my next battery will come from EnerSys/Odyssey. wink


thanks for the recommendation of another battery manufacturer! I'll keep that on my list.. I know enersys, they make batteries I've used for battery backup systems (UPS).

Re: JCI to spin off battery business? [Re: researcher] #4699172
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Originally Posted By: researcher
Originally Posted By: dailydriver
^^^ONE of the reasons my next battery will come from EnerSys/Odyssey. wink


thanks for the recommendation of another battery manufacturer! I'll keep that on my list.. I know enersys, they make batteries I've used for battery backup systems (UPS).


The one I want to use (Odyssey PC1100) is actually part of a self contained/shielded/welded wiring harness 3 pack for modern military jet fighters, or so I am told by their techs.

I want it because it is almost 10 pounds lighter than my OEM Motorcraft (with the same CCA, and some of the other specs even better) is a sealed, NO LEAKAGE, AGM, and I already have the bespoke, Schumacher made Odyssey charger for it from my last Die Hard/Odyssey battery. wink


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