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"Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil #4692108
03/12/18 05:19 AM
03/12/18 05:19 AM
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NJ, USA
RyanGreener Offline OP
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Hey everyone. Just looking for a cheapo way to almost match the 0W-20 rating of my tC while using cheapo conventional oil since I want to do 5k OCIs.

Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692120
03/12/18 05:34 AM
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What vehicle do you have?
year, engine, miles on vehicle, climate, driving style etc.
This will help you get started. This information is from the PQIA website and dates back to 2014 but it does have a good amount of 5W20 oil brands grouped together in Some are synthetic so, you'll want to overlook those in particular. The remaining are conventional(dino) oils. You can even click on one brand which will bring it up separately for a better view.

http://www.pqiamerica.com/Feb2014/consolidated5w20ALL.html

Others will chime in for what else to look for in an oil beside how thin it is. Other important factors such as NOACK(volatility) and other additive packages which may be more important to you, your vehicle, your driving style etc.

Last edited by Char Baby; 03/12/18 05:41 AM.

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Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692126
03/12/18 05:42 AM
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A cheapo way of matching the 0w20 is to look out for a really good sale on 0w20. Seriously. With some of the sale finds people have posted on here lately you can often find synthetic for less than the regular price of conventional. Then just stock up like crazy.


2018 Corvette, 9k, M1 ESP Formula 5w30 & NAPA Gold
2006 Civic EX Coupe, 148k, PUP 5w20 & Fram Ultra
2010 BMW 328i X-Drive,110k, GC 0w40 & Fram Ultra

Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: Patman] #4692134
03/12/18 05:50 AM
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Yes, and this too! ^^^


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Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692149
03/12/18 06:05 AM
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Super Tech now makes a 0w20 synthetic. $17 at Wal-Mart for 5 quarts. Pretty close in price to conventional.


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Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692174
03/12/18 06:37 AM
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Picking nits.

When my wife had a tC I used 10W-30 GTX every 3k miles. I didn't know any better, and the car didn't care.

I'd run Magnatec 0W-20, which is about $20 for 5 quarts.


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Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692178
03/12/18 06:43 AM
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Harvest King (Citgo) synthetic 0W20 is $10.99 for a five quart jug at Rural King.


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Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692183
03/12/18 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted By: RyanGreener
Hey everyone. Just looking for a cheapo way to almost match the 0W-20 rating of my tC while using cheapo conventional oil since I want to do 5k OCIs.

0W-20 isn't "thinner" than 5W-20. It's more pumpable at low temps. There's a difference, and it's important.

Also, if your tC requires 0W-20, that doesn't just mean viscosity grade; it also means a certain quality level that is very difficult for a non-synthetic 5W-20 to meet. 0W-20s as a class are just higher quality lubricants than non-synthetic 5W-20s. They have to be, or else they'd cook off too fast and work terribly.

By the same token, any conventional 5W-20 that approaches the cold pumpability of a 0W will be either so thin that it's terrible, or so close to a 0W-20 that it's not cheap. So if you want it to be cheap, you're going for terrible. Doesn't make sense for an engine that specs 0W-20, especially given how cheaply you can get a decent API-certified 0W-20 these days.


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Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692210
03/12/18 07:24 AM
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5w20 conventional at 5k OCIs should be just fine but as Patman said, there's sales that come up every now and then where you can get Synthetic oil for cheaper then conventional. So why use regular when you can use Synthetic for the same price???

When you see a sale, stock up a few oil changes in advance.


2014 Mazda 3 Hatch 2.0L & 6spd - Idemitsu 0w20 Synthetic @ $0.75 a quart. (thanks Advance Auto Parts for the awesome deal)
Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692232
03/12/18 07:45 AM
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Id put 5w30 in that tc. You don't want a 20 in a big 4 banger with small block v8 bore and big block stroke.

You want a good oil not just match a winter grade.

Valvoline 0w20 is very good of all the ow20 I tried.

5-6k on gasohol is about as far as you want to go on a "fake synthetic" where I live.

Remember most American synthetic are NOT REAL SYNTHETIC OIL.

Last edited by ARCOgraphite; 03/12/18 07:47 AM.

2014 Nissan Rogue S CVT, OC#10 47272mi-QSUD10W30+5w20 Toughguard Filter; '17 Subaru Crosstrek CVT OC#2 ?? mi-SOA/Idemitsu 0w20 + SOA Filter
Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: ARCOgraphite] #4692262
03/12/18 08:03 AM
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TN
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Okay, Arco. Tell us what is a "real Synthetic". You know Decene is sometimes made from cracked petroleum, right?


2010 Volvo V70-3.2
Current Fill:Castrol Magnatec 5w-30
2018 Subaru Forester, 0w-20 Subaru oil
2001 Chevrolet Prism:Castrol Magnatec 5w-30

Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692293
03/12/18 08:50 AM
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RyanGreener: It seems like cost is a big issue. If you plan to do your own oil change and tire rotation (very important to max life out of your tires), use Walmart SuperTech 0w-20. Use 7500 mile OCI and include tire rotation. Tires will cost most than the oil changes.


2006 Toyota Camry
2013 Toyota Sienna
2015 Toyota Camry
Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692364
03/12/18 10:20 AM
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Ryan, Ryan ryan, my ryan...Let's see if this fancys our insatiable appetite for fan-freak-tastic oil. I got 19 quart bottles and 4 jugs worth of clearance oil and not just any oil, mind you my ryan, this is the OEM choice for Honda of Canada (still yet) and former OEM for Honda. And still the undisputed OEM for everyone else and by everyone else I mean the likes of Mazda, Subaru, Nissan etc. The quarts bottles were .85 cents each and the jugs 1.55 each. This is 0w-20 oil Ryan Greener...ryanryanryan, we have a lot to learn but just you wait until next christmas and santa can bring you the win of your life for 10s of thousands of miles of love for your car!

Last edited by HondaBroMike; 03/12/18 10:22 AM.


Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: RyanGreener] #4692480
03/12/18 12:42 PM
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Use the supertech 0w20, nothing will be cheaper unless you get a clearance score


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2002 Buick Century 130k - Built 4T65e(Maxlife) - Edge 0w40 + Fram XG3980
Re: "Thinnest" 5W-20 Conventional Oil [Re: 901Memphis] #4692481
03/12/18 12:45 PM
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Indiana
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Originally Posted By: 901Memphis
Use the supertech 0w20, nothing will be cheaper unless you get a clearance score


The Harvest King synthetic at Rural King is $6 less for the 5 qt jug than the ST.


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