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#4691334 - 03/11/18 10:56 AM 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure
klt1986 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
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Loc: Southern VA
Took these pictures from one of our 2011 Chargers with the 5.7 Hemi and less than 80k. Car would still run like a scalded dog and you could only feel a slight miss at WOT. Regular oil changes with synthetic oil and the vehicle did have the cam and lifter recall performed at a dealer. I wonder if the recall work was actually performed?






Edited by wwillson (03/12/18 06:41 AM)
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#4691341 - 03/11/18 11:01 AM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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Holy [censored]! That is all galled up, sure looks defective if all the others are good...
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#4691348 - 03/11/18 11:08 AM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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Registered: 02/18/11
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Well, that cam is junk. What oil was used?
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#4691373 - 03/11/18 11:26 AM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: SteveSRT8]
klt1986 Offline


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Originally Posted By: SteveSRT8
Holy [censored]! That is all galled up, sure looks defective if all the others are good...


All the others looked good. Wish I had taken a picture of the lobe on the cam. It wore a grove down about the width of a quarter.
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#4691374 - 03/11/18 11:26 AM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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^^ Yes what oil, and what grade?
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#4691385 - 03/11/18 11:38 AM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: LeakySeals]
klt1986 Offline


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Originally Posted By: LeakySeals
Well, that cam is junk. What oil was used?


Not sure of the brand but a 5w20 synthetic.
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#4691400 - 03/11/18 11:56 AM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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That's why I use 5W30 with NO problems.
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#4691404 - 03/11/18 12:00 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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Were the replacement lifters marked differently? Maybe the dealer forgot to do one?

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#4691408 - 03/11/18 12:03 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
Linctex Offline


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Bad metallurgy/heat treatment of parts.

Only 1 lifter failed - oil is not to blame.

I would think this would make a LOT of noise.
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#4691411 - 03/11/18 12:08 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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Registered: 07/16/11
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Loc: NC USA
The metal particles went bad places

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#4691431 - 03/11/18 12:23 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: Reddy45]
klt1986 Offline


Registered: 04/08/09
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Loc: Southern VA
Originally Posted By: Reddy45
Were the replacement lifters marked differently? Maybe the dealer forgot to do one?



I did not compare all the lifters but I'm sure the mechanic doing the tear down did. I too wonder if the dealer mixed parts up, forgot to do one like you said, or purposely did not do it but charged FCA for the recall anyway? All we can go by is that the local dealer says the recall was completed but the warranty on the recall had expired a year earlier.
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#4691459 - 03/11/18 12:48 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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Registered: 12/16/06
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I think it was a faulty casting of the metal to make it go bad but really a miss at WOT probably not a good way to explain it. I have yet to hold mine wide open other than to the shift point.
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#4691470 - 03/11/18 12:54 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: klt1986]
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I wonder if the recall was done, but with an already in stock off the shelf pre-recall cam/lifter?
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#4691494 - 03/11/18 01:17 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: Roadkingnc]
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Registered: 01/14/11
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Originally Posted By: Roadkingnc
The metal particles went bad places


Yeah, it looks like the OD is about the same but the ID is hogged out for that roller to drop that far.

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#4691596 - 03/11/18 03:02 PM Re: 2011 Charger 5.7L Hemi Lifter Failure [Re: oldhp]
LeakySeals Offline


Registered: 02/18/11
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Loc: Hudson, NH
Originally Posted By: oldhp
That's why I use 5W30 with NO problems.

So.. You think using thicker oil prevents this from happening?
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